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04-06-2008, 10:23 PM
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Why are we exporting democracy without also exporting states' rights?
What is it about Zionism that precludes forms of nation-building and creating stable markets in a global economy?
I think a future UN constitution should also include the guarantee of a republican form of government to any region experiencing excessive anarchy.
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04-06-2008, 11:33 PM
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Why are we exporting democracy without also exporting states' rights?
What is it about Zionism that precludes forms of nation-building and creating stable markets in a global economy?
I think a future UN constitution should also include the guarantee of a republican form of government to any region experiencing excessive anarchy.
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From where we get the longer bananas ...from Africa or from
Central America ?
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04-08-2008, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by danielpalos
Why are we exporting democracy without also exporting states' rights?
What is it about Zionism that precludes forms of nation-building and creating stable markets in a global economy?
I think a future UN constitution should also include the guarantee of a republican form of government to any region experiencing excessive anarchy.
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You must be in the Bush/Cheney camp which makes you a complete idiot. We shouldn't be exporting anything! The whole point of sovereignty is for countries to govern themselves without interference by others. Who made you the expert on what's best for Israel??? You probably can't locate it on a map! Zionism has nothing to do with the state of Israel, nor are the Isrealis precluding forms of nation-building. If they did, there would be no reason to attempt peace conferences, agreements and accords. And why does everyone need global markets? In case you haven't been paying attention, the global market, thanks to your capitalistic buddies, are not only taking this country down to hell, but the rest of the world as well! I wouldn't exactly call that "stable". A future UN constitution??? You are one of those global nutcases who thinks we should just eliminate culture to have one world government. Wow, that's scary. Personally if I was anything like you, I would stop posting rediculous threads, in fact, I would take it a step further and STOP TALKING for fear of embarassing myself for sounding incredibly obtuse. Excessive anarchy??? PLEASE define it for me! I'm dying to hear your definition of another term you know nothing about.
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04-09-2008, 02:48 PM
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I used to be a republican. I consider myself more of a federalist since I also subscribe to the federalist doctrine concerning the general powers enumerated in the Constitution.
You may have missed my sarcasm. States' rights doctrine is a form of sovereignty in federal forms of government.
I am not claiming I know what is best for Israel. However, it is easy when compared and contrasted to what is best for the region. No one can claim that having stable markets are not conducive to first world economies in a global environment.
Why have Israel and the US consistently denied and disparaged the individual rights of a populace in need of a State for the betterment of their general welfare?
I am not sure I understand your position on "global" markets. You seem to be implying that markets, whether global or local, are not conducive to improvement in the standard of living of their market participants.
I think a federal UN, with a US style constitution and bill of rights, could enable a more perfect Union of States in our modern, global economy.
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04-09-2008, 05:34 PM
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How about the bananas ? Your kikeland has no constitution ..
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04-10-2008, 11:38 AM
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[quote=danielpalos;369369] I am not claiming I know what is best for Israel. However, it is easy when compared and contrasted to what is best for the region. The Middle East region...which is where Isreal is located...you think it's easy to know what's best for this region??? You should go and apply for the State Deparment, or better yet, the DOD, since apparently you know better than they do. While you're at it, make sure you tell them about your plan for Iraq.No one can claim that having stable markets are not conducive to first world economies in a global environment. Perhaps, however, at the current time, it is difficult to define what is a "stable" market in a global economy that is in flux.
Why have Israel and the US consistently denied and disparaged the individual rights of a populace in need of a State for the betterment of their general welfare? Okay??? What are you even talking about here???
I am not sure I understand your position on "global" markets. You seem to be implying that markets, whether global or local, are not conducive to improvement in the standard of living of their market participants. No...again...the economic situation in the U.S. and hence, worldwide, is unstable. Banking and finance markets are all over the place, the U.S. doesn't produce anything, it imports poorly made products from abroad because they are made so cheaply, and now consumption is low because no one can afford anything due to inceasing oil prices. How is this an improvement in the standard of living of market participants???
I think a federal UN, with a US style constitution and bill of rights, could enable a more perfect Union of States in our modern, global economy. The U.S. should not be dictating to a "supposed" international organization how to "govern" itself. This is no different than going in to different countries and "spreading democracy", which is a bullshit notion.
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04-10-2008, 11:42 AM
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Its not hard to know better then the State Department or any other American goverment entity whe it comes to isreal
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Why have Israel and the US consistently denied and disparaged the individual rights of a populace in need of a State for the betterment of their general welfare?
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Isrealis dicatate there actions. They dont want a palesitianin. They are greedy selfish and racist.
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04-11-2008, 05:34 PM
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How about the bananas ? Your kikeland has no constitution ..
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I am not sure I understand your position. The UN has a charter. Both the UN and the US (which also has a charter) recognize Israel as a sovereign state.
I think your analogy is not as relevant now that the Cold War is over. We could be getting bananas all year long if they are grown in different regions that are currently in season and ensured a market in our global economy.
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04-11-2008, 05:52 PM
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[quote=FromRussiaWithLove;370227]
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Originally Posted by danielpalos
I am not claiming I know what is best for Israel. However, it is easy when compared and contrasted to what is best for the region. The Middle East region...which is where Isreal is located...you think it's easy to know what's best for this region??? You should go and apply for the State Deparment, or better yet, the DOD, since apparently you know better than they do. While you're at it, make sure you tell them about your plan for Iraq.No one can claim that having stable markets are not conducive to first world economies in a global environment. Perhaps, however, at the current time, it is difficult to define what is a "stable" market in a global economy that is in flux.
Why have Israel and the US consistently denied and disparaged the individual rights of a populace in need of a State for the betterment of their general welfare? Okay??? What are you even talking about here???
I am not sure I understand your position on "global" markets. You seem to be implying that markets, whether global or local, are not conducive to improvement in the standard of living of their market participants. No...again...the economic situation in the U.S. and hence, worldwide, is unstable. Banking and finance markets are all over the place, the U.S. doesn't produce anything, it imports poorly made products from abroad because they are made so cheaply, and now consumption is low because no one can afford anything due to inceasing oil prices. How is this an improvement in the standard of living of market participants???
I think a federal UN, with a US style constitution and bill of rights, could enable a more perfect Union of States in our modern, global economy. The U.S. should not be dictating to a "supposed" international organization how to "govern" itself. This is no different than going in to different countries and "spreading democracy", which is a bullshit notion.
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Politics and statecraft are two different things. No one can claim that having stable markets are not conducive to first world economies in a global environment. The same should apply to any region of our global economy. In that same manner, no one is claiming that truer forms of anarchy are more conducive to stable markets than statism. Solving for that issue is a simple solution. We can always move forward from there.
The US, Israel, and the UN are the major holdouts for recognition of another state in historic Palestine. From one perspective, an analogy can be made to the US refusing to recognize normal "trading policy" with pre-WWII Japan. Simple recognition could solve that issue.
You may be confusing short-term market "flux" to long-term stability in a global environment. You may compare and contrast the stability of the markets in first world countries (all of which are formally recognized sovereign states), to those experiencing excessive anarchy due to a lack of sufficient statism.
A more perfect Union of states bound together for their mutual defense and welfare is not the same as the US exporting a cheap imitation of democracy while importing more practical cheap and imitation goods from other countries.
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04-11-2008, 05:54 PM
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Its not hard to know better then the State Department or any other American goverment entity whe it comes to isreal
Isrealis dicatate there actions. They dont want a palesitianin. They are greedy selfish and racist.
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What is wrong with unification with a greater Israel? In any event, even Judea and Israel were not the only states in historic Palestine.
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