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12-04-2007, 11:47 AM
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Iranian nuke program suspened in 2003.
Bush is a big, fat LIAR.
Whatever medals the Likud Party hands out, Bush deserves the biggest, shiniest one. As I figure it, we've given Israel $1,500,000,000,000 in foreign and military aid over the past 6 years, and 4,000 American lives. With allies like Israel, who the hell needs enemies?
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12-04-2007, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by George O Well
Bush is a big, fat LIAR.
Whatever medals the Likud Party hands out, Bush deserves the biggest, shiniest one. As I figure it, we've given Israel $1,500,000,000,000 in foreign and military aid over the past 6 years, and 4,000 American lives. With allies like Israel, who the hell needs enemies?
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$1.5 trillion in 6 years?????? Hell, our national debt is $9.15 trillion. Methinks you've miscalculated.
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12-04-2007, 12:03 PM
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$1.5 trillion in 6 years?????? Hell, our national debt is $9.15 trillion. Methinks you've miscalculated.
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We've spent $700,000,000,000 so far. The projections I've heard are that it will be $1,500,000,000,000 by the time we are out. Remember "Reagan proved that deficits don't matter."
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12-04-2007, 12:06 PM
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We've spent $700,000,000,000 so far. The projections I've heard are that it will be $1,500,000,000,000 by the time we are out. Remember "Reagan proved that deficits don't matter."
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$700 billion since when? Six years? Come on!
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12-04-2007, 12:15 PM
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Uhhh, you were talking about Israel, not the war with Iraq. On the original topic of the United State's funding of Israel, here's a link...
U.S. Aid To Israel
" Altogether, since 1949, Israel has received nearly than $100 billion in assistance. This includes the three special allocations, the $10 billion in loan guarantees (spread over five years) approved in 1992, and a variety of other smaller assistance-related accounts, such as refugee resettlement (nearly $1.5 billion overall) and cooperative development programs (a total of $186 million since 1981).
The total does not include funds for joint military projects like the Arrow missile (for which Israel has received more than $1 billion in grants since 1986), which are provided through the Defense budget. President Bush requested $60 million for the Arrow for FY2003 and $136 million in FY2004. The United States also has provided $53 million for the Boost Phase Intercept program and $139 million for the Tactical High Energy Laser program under development in Israel to complement the Arrow.
Though the totals are impressive, the value of assistance to Israel has been eroded by inflation. While aid levels remained constant in total dollars from 1987 until 1999, the real value steadily declined. On the other side of the coin, Israel does receive aid on more favorable terms than other nations. For example, all economic aid is given directly to the Israeli government rather than allocated under a specific program. Also, starting in 1982, Israel began to receive all its economic aid in a lump sum early in the fiscal year instead of in quarterly installments as is done for other countries. Israel is not required to provide an accounting of how the funds are used. Israel also receives offsets on FMS purchases (U.S. contractors agree to offset some of the cost of military equipment by buying components or materials from Israel).
As of December 31, 2001, Israel owed the United States government $1.977 billion in direct economic and military loans."
That's a far cry from the previous statement of $1.5 trillion or $700 billion you stated earlier.
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12-04-2007, 12:21 PM
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"Uhhh, you were talking about Israel, not the war with Iraq."
>>>The war with Iraq IS about Israel. 100 percent. I'm not talking about penny-ante irrigation projects.
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12-04-2007, 12:28 PM
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Bad. Really bad. Worse....
Good thing we didn't spend it on something worthwhile......
Hey, and Dumbya is wrong again, just like he was with Iraq, imagine that.......
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12-04-2007, 12:33 PM
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"Uhhh, you were talking about Israel, not the war with Iraq."
>>>The war with Iraq IS about Israel. 100 percent. I'm not talking about penny-ante irrigation projects.
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What the fuck is wrong with you this morning? The title of this thread is about the Iranian nuke program. You've stated two vastly different amounts of monies given to Israel. Somehow, six years figures into this equation. And now you're tying the Iraqi war to Israel?
This is just too far into schizophrenic territory to warrant my continued participation in this 'debate' with you. Until you use pertinent information and post coherent remarks, count me out of this thread.
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12-04-2007, 12:38 PM
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What the fuck is wrong with you this morning? The title of this thread is about the Iranian nuke program. You've stated two vastly different amounts of monies given to Israel. Somehow, six years figures into this equation. And now you're tying the Iraqi war to Israel?
This is just too far into schizophrenic territory to warrant my continued participation in this 'debate' with you. Until you use pertinent information and post coherent remarks, count me out of this thread.
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Don't blame George for your stupidity....
What he said made sense.....think outside your gerbil cage little rodent!!!!
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