What do you think? Real ID Act of 2005

Areyouforreal · #1 (**permalink**) 07-03-2006, 09:01 AM

I am new to this forum so I thought that I search for the Real ID act but I couldn't find anything. So I have a question
What do you think about it?
Here is a link
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquer...:@@@L&summ2=m&
I personally think that it is a load of crap and just one more way to control us and bring us closer ro a one world government.

Roman · #2 (**permalink**) 07-04-2006, 12:28 AM

It doesn't make any sense considering you need the same documents to get your ID at your local BMV. I'm not sure how other BMV's operate but one time I broke my ID in half at a party. I went to replace it and they wouldn't without my SS card and Birth Certificate even though my picture clear on there and on their computer. The lady said it didn't matter. Now, what difference is it gonna make if its your ID is state or federal, the only difference I can think is that it will prolly take twice as long and that really sucks. LOL!

OkhamsRazor · #3 (**permalink**) 07-04-2006, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Areyouforreal

I am new to this forum so I thought that I search for the Real ID act but I couldn't find anything. So I have a question
What do you think about it?
Here is a link
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquer...:@@@L&summ2=m&
I personally think that it is a load of crap and just one more way to control us and bring us closer ro a one world government.

Good post, excellent source... but I think my head is gonna explode. Between 9-11, Bush lied, Nigergate and now this... BOOOM.... Splat.

This little gem caught my eye...

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(Sec. 102) Amends the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 (IIRIRA) to authorize the Secretary of Homeland Security (the Secretary), in the Secretary's sole discretion, to waive all laws as necessary to ensure expeditious construction of certain barriers and roads at the U.S. border. Prohibits courts, administrative agencies, and other entities from reviewing the Secretary's decision or from ordering relief for damages alleged to have resulted from such decision.

EXCUSE ME!!!!! WTF?!?!?!?! God help us.

What ever happened to states rights?

Areyouforreal · #4 (**permalink**) 07-05-2006, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Roman

It doesn't make any sense considering you need the same documents to get your ID at your local BMV. I'm not sure how other BMV's operate but one time I broke my ID in half at a party. I went to replace it and they wouldn't without my SS card and Birth Certificate even though my picture clear on there and on their computer. The lady said it didn't matter. Now, what difference is it gonna make if its your ID is state or federal, the only difference I can think is that it will prolly take twice as long and that really sucks. LOL!

Here is some more information for you then:
1) Homeland Security(H.S.) awants to put RDIF"s (radio frequency identifaction) in all the national cards. This technology allow all of your information to be put into a chip that can be read anytime anywhere, H.S. wants to be able to point a reader at a vehicle going 55 mph and read up to 25 people on that bus. There will be no more "privacy"
2) Also without these cards (as you state ID and DL will no longer be valid) you will not be able open a bank account, board a plane or bus, or enter a federal building.

Areyouforreal · #5 (**permalink**) 07-05-2006, 08:38 AM

"What ever happened to states rights?"

If WE THE PEOPLE don't put a stop to this by our power at the voting boxes and by sending letter to our representatives then you can say goodbye to state rights because this is only the first step.

agent99 · #6 (**permalink**) 07-05-2006, 09:06 AM

I feel we have been heading toward a one world government for quite some time now, good post. I sort of wonder if the invention of the debit card was some sort of test to see how people would embrace it, since it has been quite succssful just wait for what comes next.

OkhamsRazor · #7 (**permalink**) 07-05-2006, 10:11 AM

99, I think even if we lived in a utopia, we would still have credit/debit cards. But fascists are an opportunistic bunch. They most often make small changes to the tools at hand. You know, little things that no one can be bothered to take note of. Big changes happen in response to a threat to safety. Lucky they had the timely act of 9-11 to pass the patriot act, create the Fatherland, I mean Homeland Security Office, expand executive power to unprecedented lengths, and on and on.

I suppose it's just coincidence that every influential policy maker in the White House has been wishing for such an event for decades to enact their much written about and thinly veiled plans for global militaristic intimidation with the goal of shaping the world for our interest alone.

Sorry, I'm not going off on you. I"M JUST GOING OFF!!! I've had it with the myopic complacency of the American mindset. Everything is in plain sight and yet no one is looking.

Areyouforreal · #8 (**permalink**) 07-05-2006, 11:28 AM

The fact that no one is looking is what scares me. Governments wait untill their peoples are asleep before they do stuff like this.

agent99 · #9 (**permalink**) 07-05-2006, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Areyouforreal

The fact that no one is looking is what scares me. Governments wait untill their peoples are asleep before they do stuff like this.

Your post reminds me of something, a thief in the night.

Areyouforreal · #10 (**permalink**) 07-05-2006, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by agent99

Your post reminds me of something, a thief in the night.

I believe you see what I am trying to convey here. The Jews did not pay close enough attention and missed the First Coming and the same will happen again if we if we are not prepared. Remember he said he was coming back.