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04-15-2007, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Mom_Adams
This statement from you really goes further to prove my point than anything. You sound like one more teacher who is tickled silly that a program designed to return children to thousands of years of moral tradition regarding sex only after marriage has failed. Did you actually get up from your computer and dance when you read that article?
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Uh...no. You so easily jump to conclusions and don't know me too well. The idea that was forwarded by the Bush administration at the behest of the Evangelical Right was to use abstinence to the exclusion of everything else. This idea makes zero practical sense, this study only confirms that fact. But it took a bunch of kids having sex and gettgin pregnant to prove it. Now that is stupid and gets me more irritated than happy. There is no GLEE in any of this really.
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04-15-2007, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Lookagain
Can't you hear the songs that are playing?....if not sorry but they go along with the post in songs about christs love for mary magdalene, and how its been clouded over
sorry if ya didn't grasp that.....you woulda need to hear the songs.
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I would need to turn on my sound!  That I will do. 
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04-15-2007, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Lookagain
Can't you hear the songs that are playing?....if not sorry but they go along with the post in songs about christs love for mary magdalene, and how its been clouded over
sorry if ya didn't grasp that.....you woulda need to hear the songs.
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Lookagain; I can usually go along with your posts. But, with all due respect, I don't like country music. Long story. I listened to it....just can't stomach country music. Now The Doors... 
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04-15-2007, 09:30 PM
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Teen sex ,I don't believe ,is not a new thing .
Preaching abstinence is a good thing but isn't always "learned."
Teaching safe sex ,doesn't mean approving of teen sex,is a good thing also.
Teaching that sex is only for procreation among married people and that it is a "sin" otherwise makes people hypocrites and "sinners".
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04-16-2007, 11:47 AM
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i wonder if those duke lacross players participated in any "socialy fucked programs" that our twisted government put on .... i mean it said they started in 1996 so how old would that have made them....
hmm maybe they didnt ever even have sex with that whore and thats why she hollerd rape.. ive turned down my fair share of tail ... and let me tell ya its not what they wanna hear ...
so if thats the case then the programs are working ...
and its the judicial system that needs to practice abstanance cause it sure does seem to FUCK a lot of different people "wonder if it uses protection anyway"
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Im all about the publication of documented truth and the letting go of fear through education that is my lifes mission....
I just cant seem to find it in me to support a government that controlls through fear... too much like whats that place called... oh yea the catholic church...
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04-16-2007, 12:03 PM
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"For nearly fifty years, educators in public schools having been progressively selling sex on America's children."
>>>>Nonsense. If you're looking for whipping boys, try the entire media. Then try boomer-parents. The only sex education going on in the schools is looking at frog nuts under a microscope in Biology class.
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04-16-2007, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by George O Well
"For nearly fifty years, educators in public schools having been progressively selling sex on America's children."
>>>>Nonsense. If you're looking for whipping boys, try the entire media. Then try boomer-parents. The only sex education going on in the schools is looking at frog nuts under a microscope in Biology class.
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That's done virtually now. 
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04-17-2007, 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by cat's meow
Uh...no. You so easily jump to conclusions and don't know me too well. The idea that was forwarded by the Bush administration at the behest of the Evangelical Right was to use abstinence to the exclusion of everything else. This idea makes zero practical sense, this study only confirms that fact. But it took a bunch of kids having sex and gettgin pregnant to prove it. Now that is stupid and gets me more irritated than happy. There is no GLEE in any of this really.
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Well, as amazing as it may sound, abstinance only managed to keep trillians of young girls from getting pregnant for thousands of years. Only when the government decided it could do a better job of teaching kids about sex did this "I have a right to have sex" attitude begin. And it didn't happen over night, so why would anyone think or expect it to be undone overnight? Especially with 90% of the teachers turning their noses up at it. Do you really think that all those kids who went through those classes and had sex anyway didn't know about birth control?
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04-17-2007, 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Mom_Adams
Well, as amazing as it may sound, abstinance only managed to keep trillians of young girls from getting pregnant for thousands of years. Only when the government decided it could do a better job of teaching kids about sex did this "I have a right to have sex" attitude begin. And it didn't happen over night, so why would anyone think or expect it to be undone overnight? Especially with 90% of the teachers turning their noses up at it. Do you really think that all those kids who went through those classes and had sex anyway didn't know about birth control?
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Was that when girls married at age 13 and 14?
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04-17-2007, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by jan
Was that when girls married at age 13 and 14?
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and don't forget the average lifespan was less than 40, so a 13 year old was already 1/4 through life
WHEN WE WERE YOUNG AND UNAFRAID
WE WERE OLDER THEN
What became of "THE AGE OF REASON".......7.......it used to be 7 years old 
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