if he did not take the polls serious, then why does he go on "tour" everytime the numbers drop?

good points, I agree

[quote=OkhamsRazor]I agree with you now and I agreed with you then (if that is, you were of the same mind back in '98).


I think that, in the case of the president, it is a MORE difficult hurdle to pass once they are out of office. I am not sure about that though.


Finally someone puts the horse BEFORE the cart.

Not if they are politicians. Have you ever read a former (waiting in the wings) politcian's book?

For instance, Rudy G.'s book wasn't really filled with much more than trivial matters. He CAN'T risk saying anything of note.

I think that once they are done completely (Zell Miller) you can start to take what they say or write without a 50# sack of salt.


I like the idea of not needlessly wasting taxpayers money. In the end that was what Starr's investigation came out to.

btw, Keneth Starr was involved in some trickery in trying to defend a death row inmate in California. Seems they faked up a bunch of documents. He didn't personally do it, but he was on the team of whores (lawyers) that allowed it.

It is a good thought.


Now go ahead and say how facile my post is, and that it is without any significance or depth you fucker.

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"I done told you once you son a bitch I am the best that has ever been."

you liberals make me sick to my stomach.

This is exactly my point, you were doing well.... until the last word. Which, in the parlence of civil discourse is unecesarry. That one word makes the rest of your post facile, shallow and insignificant. You would find yourself with much more respect from both sides if you would drop the "angry young man" routine.

Just make your points, good bad or otherwise and be done with it. No need to for the rest of it.

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Lets let gas get to $4 per gallon? What? I guess you like recessions and a halt to the great economy that we have. Immigration is an old problem but more important now than ever. Immigrants cost us way too much money and are a national secutiry risk. All I hear out of Democrats is amenesty and open borders. As far as social security is concerned, that was not a scare. The system will run out of money by the time I am ready to retire. What scares me is that if democrats are elected they will not deal with the border situation at all, they will surrender in Iraq and focus all their energy on bogus impeachment charges. Please don't tell me what my beliefs are. Thank you.

JT, if our "great economy" is dependent solely on the price of gas, we are in worse shape than I thought.

What if I told you that $4 dollars at the pump will make it feasible for me to offer you unlimited electricity for $1000? That's right, a one time fee of $1k and you will never have to pay for electricity again. And become the world leader in renewable energy and desalinization of ocean water too boot.

Besides, Iraqis pay about 0.28 cents a gallon and look at their economy... LMAO sorry, I couldn't resist. I know, I know, facile statement.

The amnesty rhetoric is coming from Bush as well.

Social Security?... Would have been easy to fix with the enormous surplus of $7 trillion or so that Clinton left us, that Georgie squandered in under 18 months.

And lastly, I didn't say a thing about your beliefs. What I said was, you are being worked into a frenzy by folks that don't share you beliefs. They are effectively mining your beliefs for a power base to do as they wish. I would think that was obvious by now. The neo-cons are being played by the old guard.

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Suck on my chud moron.

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"I done told you once you son a bitch I am the best that has ever been."

you liberals make me sick to my stomach.

This is the way it works. Gas goes up to four dollars a gallon. People have to pay 50 or 60 bucks to fill up their cars. Depending how much people drive the fill ups are twice a week or more. That 120 dollars going into their gas tanks does not go into other consumer spending. Also large cars won't be sold because of the gas prices. When people don't buy things the economy goes south. Why do I even have to explain this. Could you explain the one time 1K ultility fee dealy? Is this real or just something in crazy liberal land? Clinton was not responsible for the 7 trillion surplus. Even if Gore had been elected it would have vanished. Why? Because corruption in business was so out of control in the Clinton years the bubble was bound to burst. Why do liberals think he is a hero? Idon't get it. Remeber the time he sent cruise missiles into Afghanistan to divert press attension from his pants or lack of pants?

Wrong again... This is how it really works... Gas goes up to $4 a gallon... people stop buying big useless cars and start investing in new technology, which we can then export to other countries. We are forced to upgrade our infrastructure to include efficient public transport like every other developed nation has, thus providing more jobs in construction and operations. New technology doesn't just provide new jobs, it grows the economy. If you are paying $50-60 bucks to fill up twice a week, you are driving the wrong vehicle.

I will explain it as soon as we go public, until then... just know it's on the way. But answer the question... would $4 a gallon be acceptable if it made unlimited electricity possible?

I'm not here to champion the Clintons. Both parties suck in my opinion and anyone that subscribes to either of them is letting themselves get played big time. If Clinton isn't responsible for the surplus, who is? Does it matter? Georgie pissed it away in record time and then some. Please explain to me how corporate corruption is responsible for the largest debt in US history after having the biggest surplus in history. How did they squander $11 trillion?

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Ok I will conceed that gas going up to four or five a gallon would force us to use alternative energy. However the implimentation of those technologies is about five years away. In the meantime Americans would be suffering because of the prices at the pump and the economy would go into a downward spiral.

As far as your one time 1k utility thing...many Americans would not be able to come up with the funds for it and until you offer proof as to what it is I am going to think you are living in fantasy land.

The surplus was generated by an artificiall Internet boom huge gains in the stock market. Not anything Bill did. The surplus was depleted because one of the worlds major finance complexes ws as destroyed on 9/11. To prevent the economy from going into a tailspin the president was forced to cut taxes. Also in order to defend us money had to be spent. I think that too much money is spent on out social state and if that spending was reduced then we would be better off.