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Old 04-23-2006, 11:42 PM
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I've got news for ya jimmy,
No you don't.


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if Clinton can be impeached for that ridiculous mess, then it's open season on Bush.
You forget, conveniently, a couple of things. The Republicans retook the Congress in 1994.

After several investigations over many years the Republicans impeached Clinton, rightly or wrongly.

The Dems don't currently have investigations going nor do they control either house.


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Deal with it.
Okay. I am just saying that the analogy to Clinton is barely possible, even with a warped imagination.

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The proceedings will commence the day after the '06 elections.
Provided the Republicans lose control. You are optimistic and I like that. Doesn't mean it will happen.


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You don't have to take any of it seriously, but it will happen anyway.
You of course could be right. But if that is the song that Dems are going to sing to get elected they will have a tough road ahead.

Because like you many people feel the Clinton impeachment was a joke and don't want to go down that road.


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And I for one am patient enough to see it through to the end. I am determined to do my part to make sure that the resources of this country, political good will, and status as leader of free nations, never be squandered again for the sake dubious hidden agendas.
I admire that. Seriously.


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There is no amount of personal attack, picking apart of posts, inappropriately taking things out of context, plagiarism, gross generalization, demonization or side-stepping of the issues (all of which jimmy has managed to in the very short time he has been here), that will stay me or my "ilk" from seeing those responsible for this mess, answer for it.
aww that isn't nice.


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jimmyjude and those that share his opinion are the last vestiges of a crumbling propaganda machine. These folks stated their position so strongly in the beginning that they have no choice but to stay on board and hope like hell for vindication.
Protecting the hypothesis is what I call it.

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Since they have no defensible facts to refute the allegations being made, they attack the sources and delivery methods.
The allegations are silly, so why bother with a lot of work trying to dipute silliness?


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Isn't that when the fight usually breaks out on the playground? When one kid gets called out cold in front of everyone and has no defensible oral position, out come the fists to silence the accuser.
Are you talking about Bush, me, or impeachment?



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Go ahead jimmy, slice it up. Dissect it and edit it to suit your needs. Just know that it is quickly becoming ineffectual as most folks are on to that too.
Well since that charge is false and demonstrably so, I will let it go.

For the record, you don't bait me. I bait you.


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Old 04-24-2006, 01:14 AM
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the scariest thing about bush is that he refuses to take the polls seriously, which reflects the will of the american people who he is supposed to governing for. he does whatever God suppossedly tells him to do. thats scary. basing his decisions on Gods will is reckless, dangerous and blind.

Haven't seen a bush that bad since the 70's
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Old 04-26-2006, 10:53 AM
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What is scary to me is that if the Democrats gain power they will not work on the serious issues at hand such as lowering oil costs or immigration or the war in Iraq. Their sole focus will to impeach the president. Scary. Oh yeah and Clinton was impeached for lying under oath. Not having sex with a cow.
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Old 04-26-2006, 12:11 PM
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Impeaching Bush is tending to those serious issues.

Good point about Clinton, too bad Libby didn't learn from that.

I don't see lowering oil costs as an issue that needs dire attention. In fact I think it's the best thing that could happen to this country. Let gas get to $4 per gallon.

The immigration issue has been around forever. Just like the Social Security scare the administration tried to hoodwink us with. They are old problems. Not to say they don't need attention, but honestly, you are being worked into a frenzy by forces that share little in common with your belief systems.
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Old 04-26-2006, 12:23 PM
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I agree even though I think Bush has committed impeachable offenses why bother spend the time and money. he has caused enough trouble for this country. Most of the right are seeing through him. We just need to get the most diplomatic,intelligent, and strategic person in office 2008 that can focus on cleaning up after him.
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Old 04-26-2006, 12:56 PM
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I agree even though I think Bush has committed impeachable offenses why bother spend the time and money. he has caused enough trouble for this country. Most of the right are seeing through him. We just need to get the most diplomatic, intelligent, and strategic person in office 2008 that can focus on cleaning up after him.

Right! And then indict and prosecute. Georgie won't be able to be the "decider" about what stays classified and what doesn't. I think that is the most crucial point of all. Get them with their own words!
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Old 04-26-2006, 01:04 PM
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I will tell you something...the reason this political process and this administration are such an issue with me. I served in WW2. I then finished medical school and then re-enlisted. I spent 6 years more in the military. If the baby boomers knew what our previous leaders worked and fought for and stood for and believed in they would not stand for this administrations incompetence,shortsightedness and squandering of what so many people gave their lives to achieve. All of our values and historic commitments are being revoked and challenged by this administration. I have voted most often republican but sometimes democrat. I am not interested in the bipartisan game. I will start a new thread related to future leadership.
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Old 04-26-2006, 01:15 PM
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Protecting the hypothesis is what I call it.

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One does not "protect" a hypothesis. Proper scientific reasoning calls for one to do everything in ones power to unseat or disprove that hypothesis. If it withstands that, you can be reasonably sure that you have the right idea. Protecting a hypothesis is a career ender. Kind of like fixing intel to fit the policy.

Are you sure you and Bush aren't related... maybe you have Rove blood in you or something.
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Old 04-26-2006, 02:08 PM
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"Let gas get to $4 per gallon."

>>>I don't disagree with that necessarily, but Cheney came into office wanting $4/gal gas. And I want Cheney defeated on EVERY front.
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Old 04-26-2006, 02:20 PM
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One does not "protect" a hypothesis. Proper scientific reasoning calls for one to do everything in ones power to unseat or disprove that hypothesis. If it withstands that, you can be reasonably sure that you have the right idea. Protecting a hypothesis is a career ender. Kind of like fixing intel to fit the policy.

Are you sure you and Bush aren't related... maybe you have Rove blood in you or something.[/quote]

You think that you are so smart.

The idea comes from the book The Twilight of Democracy.

Unlike you I read the opposition's works, and try to understand their reasoning.

That is why I so easily destroy your ignorant ass in debates all over this board.

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