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Old 05-28-2008, 11:37 PM
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So far, it appears McClellan is telling us what 74% of us have already figured out.

We all know Bush lied and used propaganda to rush us into an unnecesssary war that made the world less safe.
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Old 05-28-2008, 11:50 PM
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Quite true...I think it is going to be interesting to watch this unfold...from what I'm gathering so far the biggest "why" for his writing the book stems from him lying about the Plame episode because of both Libby and Rove lying to him about their lack of involvement.
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Old 05-29-2008, 01:22 AM
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Of course Ari Fleischer is staying with the company line...
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Old 05-29-2008, 01:25 AM
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The bigget thing that many agree upon is the outing of Plame and what McClellen did in terms of BS denials the Rove/Libby crap.
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Old 05-29-2008, 01:33 AM
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So far, it appears McClellan is telling us what 74% of us have already figured out.

We all know Bush lied and used propaganda to rush us into an unnecesssary war that made the world less safe.
good point sam, maybe this inside trusted man's memoir will be a turning point for the blind allegiance that quite a few republicans have for this failed administration
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Old 05-29-2008, 02:57 AM
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How can you rip bush a new one?

He's already 100% asshole.
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Old 05-29-2008, 07:24 AM
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Thanks for no specifics...because there are none that really compare to this. Let me help you out here...the closest you can get is the "Pentagon Papers" and that basically was the beginning of the end for Nixon. And, BTW, blow jobs and temper tantrums don't quite measure up to lying about an all out war.
BBC News | Latest news | McCurry doubts Clinton's fitness for office

Mike McCurry (born 27 October 1954) is best known as the former press secretary for Bill Clinton's administration. He is also active within the administration of the United Methodist Church, serving as a lay delegate to the Church General Conference and on various denominational boards.
Mr McCurry told the BBC's Newsnight programme President Clinton's behaviour was "surely reckless" and "contrary to the way you would expect a rational human being to behave".
Asked whether he thought Mr Clinton was fit to be president, Mr McCurry, who had maintained his silence on presidential issues since his resignation in October, said: "I have enormous doubts because of the recklessness of his behaviour.
"The nature of this particular affair and then the way he did conceal it really does raise some very profound troubling matters.


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Within a short time, Stephanopoulos was fighting off bimbo eruptions, draft dodger stories, and all those myriad other rumors, innuendoes and, as we ultimately discovered, perfectly valid allegations. Always in these situations it is Hillary who demands that the accuser be destroyed, while the candidate dissembles and prevaricates until the story has spun nearly out of control. But these battles themselves have a certain allure:

What began as a strange, even sordid, way to spend my time soon felt natural. Wake me up in the middle of the night, I could have told you all the lies in the Nichols story before I even opened my eyes. I began to think that doing dirty work was not necessary but noble, a landmark on the road to greater good. I began to fool myself, because fighting scandals can be fun; the action is addictive.

Just as the candidate seemed addicted to getting into these messes, the staff seemed to become addicted to cleaning them up, regardless of the validity of the charges or the means they had to employ. The pattern was set which would follow them to the White House and remains with us today (8/07/00). Clinton triggers another scandal, Hillary demands that opponents be crushed, and the staff spins like crazy.

This should be enough details for you.
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Old 05-29-2008, 07:49 AM
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BBC News | Latest news | McCurry doubts Clinton's fitness for office

Mike McCurry (born 27 October 1954) is best known as the former press secretary for Bill Clinton's administration. He is also active within the administration of the United Methodist Church, serving as a lay delegate to the Church General Conference and on various denominational boards.
Mr McCurry told the BBC's Newsnight programme President Clinton's behaviour was "surely reckless" and "contrary to the way you would expect a rational human being to behave".
Asked whether he thought Mr Clinton was fit to be president, Mr McCurry, who had maintained his silence on presidential issues since his resignation in October, said: "I have enormous doubts because of the recklessness of his behaviour.
"The nature of this particular affair and then the way he did conceal it really does raise some very profound troubling matters.


George Stephanopoulos

Review of George Stephanopoulos's All Too Human : A Political Education - BrothersJudd.com

Within a short time, Stephanopoulos was fighting off bimbo eruptions, draft dodger stories, and all those myriad other rumors, innuendoes and, as we ultimately discovered, perfectly valid allegations. Always in these situations it is Hillary who demands that the accuser be destroyed, while the candidate dissembles and prevaricates until the story has spun nearly out of control. But these battles themselves have a certain allure:

What began as a strange, even sordid, way to spend my time soon felt natural. Wake me up in the middle of the night, I could have told you all the lies in the Nichols story before I even opened my eyes. I began to think that doing dirty work was not necessary but noble, a landmark on the road to greater good. I began to fool myself, because fighting scandals can be fun; the action is addictive.

Just as the candidate seemed addicted to getting into these messes, the staff seemed to become addicted to cleaning them up, regardless of the validity of the charges or the means they had to employ. The pattern was set which would follow them to the White House and remains with us today (8/07/00). Clinton triggers another scandal, Hillary demands that opponents be crushed, and the staff spins like crazy.

This should be enough details for you.
Good stuff. I didn't even know he wrote a book.
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Old 05-29-2008, 08:28 AM
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(2008-05-28) — Former White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan, who claims in a new book that Bush administration officials used him to promote the president’s policies and to defend top officials, today said he suspects he’s being used unwittingly by his publisher to pass along information “just to sell books.”

“I’m afraid I’ve become the innocent accomplice to another propaganda effort,” said Mr. McClellan. “It turns out that my publisher is engaged in a highly-choreographed campaign to move books through distribution points in cities throughout the country, as well as through internet portals.”

The author of What Happened: Inside the Bush White House and Washington’s Culture of Deception, said that during visits to his publisher’s headquarters he has seen editors and marketing people stepping into offices for “mysterious private conversations as if they were plotting something.”

“I’m concerned,” said Mr. McClellan, “that, like Bush, I may have engaged in self-deception and convinced myself to believe what suits my needs at the moment — mostly my need to convert my undistinguished White House tenure into an endless stream of cash.”

Mr. McClellan said he plans to “ask a lot of questions and get to the bottom of this, as soon as the checks all clear.”
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Old 05-29-2008, 08:45 AM
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Good stuff. I didn't even know he wrote a book.
Of course not, the media is not going to report such things concerning Democrats.
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