Or... What about this one...

Right-Wing Agenda: Is Barack Obama the Anti-Christ?

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There are so many taken out of context miss information & out right distortions in the article that I don't even know where to begin.

What a whinny little girl. (In the article)

Sorry but First it ain't our job to do Israels internal self interests.
Second it is not appeasement to talk to your enemy. It's called being an adult.

I have been stating that for years. Far before Obama was on the scene. He only reinforced my point as a public official.

As far as motivating our souls...Who knows but I will tell you this our lazy apathetic consumer driven vacuous lives hell bent on acquiring things & living in fear of one another sure is one nasty blight on Americas soul. Personally I could see that far before Obama even came to Chicago.

How about you Hmm?

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Case in point about fear of others. THIS IS THE PROBLEM.

Let's see. They used to say the same thing about Reagan because his name when counting the letters came out to 666. They used to say the same thing about Gorbachev because he had a birth mark on his head, the mark of the BEAST.

Seriously it's like a warshack test for dummies. Read into what ever you want & create what ever delusion you wish to create. If we spent as much time solving our real problems as we spend on fomenting fear...we might actually solve some problems instead of sliding of the cliff of unicorn logic.

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O man, brutha, can yu feeuh his pain? Halleberry!

We shah ovuhco. We shah ovuhco.

Yu wait. If he elektud, da prime ministuh o da Uniteh States Meeunt gonna be blak, blak, blak.

Man, I can' wate. It gonna buh Crismus evuh day, Halleberry!

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Crow,

First off, those articles were funny... Like you, I don't think Obama is the anti-christ. It was meant as a joke.

Anyway... Movin' on... I am sure you are familiar with the start of WWII? It started, because men thought they would sit down and 'discuss' things like adults.... so much for that idea....

Aside from that, I don't trust that Obama is capable of such a task. Have you heard about him wanting Bush to boycot the opening ceremonies at the olympics? Obama says he will sit and discuss issues with the leaders of other countries, what makes him think they would be willing to do so after such an offence? Does he understand the meaning of the olympics? Does he care? Does he care about all those participating in the events, or just his own political agenda?

Thus far, he hasn't done much to impress me. I will say, that you had me goin' for a while and I was almost there. But not anymore.
There are too many things that I don't like about him... certain policies. Perhaps you have a better grasp on who he is simply because he is from your state, but to me he is some unknown guy. There are too many things that I don't trust about him and his friends. I would never personally associate with the people he has surrounded himself with. If I was dating this guy - I would hall ass in the other direction - I am certainly not about to elect him to be in charge of my country.

Besides, look at the condition of Illinois.... Shootings all over the news, high crime rate, high drug rates, high unemployment... Sorry, but he hasn't done much around yer parts, and since he can't fix one state, why would I give him forty-nine more?????

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Who would Jesus Bomb?

Of coarse it hurts. Your being screwed by an elephant.

Barak Obama - Half honkey - all donkey

"It doesn't matter who votes, it matters who counts the votes"- Joseph Stalin

Though sadly they take it seriously....that's the sad part.

I'm sorry the conditions that created WWII was a hell of a lot more complex than that. A lot of it had to do with unresolved issues of WWI. Talk about the conditions that created WWI & you will see what pin headed pricks are really about. It was the pig headed arrogance & determination to go to war with the Serbs by the Austrians that set in motion a domino effect that has reverberated to this day. Ironically if one takes the time to study the history of those events one can see precisely my point about being an adult vs. being a closed minded hell bent on subjugation prick that the Austrians where at that time..
You are just trying to state appeasement in a different way. I'm afraid that is a long & complicated discussion that has no bearing on what you are attempting to justify.

Ya & I would ask the same question of China personally. Tibet was a sovereign nation when it was occupied by the Chinese & it is still unresolved. Honestly most of the world has no balls to confront China head on with this because of all their fear of losing economic ties. Ironically the only country that has the balls to allow it's people to protest is France. No I think this also is far more complicated then you seem to understand. It may require a more in depth discourse. This is regardless of what Obama has said, I have not heard nor do I care. I do know that China is one insecure totalitarian State that has lost its soul in many ways & they lead directly to the issue of Tibet. I happen to know a bit of history on China Taoism & Tibetan Buddhism & I've been there. Seven cities to be exact. I could taste the vacuum. I actually have some funny stories...but this is for another time.

His friends...you mean the ones that are positioned to make you only think & see the worst? Do you ever take the time to pay attention to the agendas of the shit that's thrown out there?

Well if you were dating from only sound bites I would be concerned about your love life anyway....

I don't know if you've noticed but this is all over the country, not just in Chicago.

Now as to the shootings...there is a turf war & battle going on between a new gang that is trying to dominate the neighborhoods. See this is also happening in L.A. It's just that it's so common there that it's not really newsworthy. I make that comment because of recently visiting an old friend there & he was talking about that very issue. Also a lot of this is related to M 13 & gang wars between Mexicans & Blacks. It's also the same thing in Chicago.
One note on unemployment. Actually overall Chicago is not doing that bad compared to other places in the country. It certainly is no more than most other places in the country.

How could he fix the entire state? He is one of MANY representatives there. Sorry that makes no sense. Please think that through....

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I agree. And if Bush wasn't such a blatant dumbass, he would be suspect number one.

Don't get me wrong here, I agree that leaders should be adults, and discuss issues for the betterment of everyone involved. I fully support Jimmy talking to Hamas. I think it was an awesome thing, and should be continued in the future. But history has shown us, that strong caution is advised. My point is that I am not sure that Obama can handle such a responsibility. He's young and inexperienced. If he had more time in the senate.... scratch that... if he had spent his time better in the senate, I might feel better. Perhaps on certain committees - ones that actually accomplished something... I may have better faith in him. I just don't.

The problem... the Olympics isn't the place for such a statement. The olympics are a place of show... people coming together to prove their worthiness through physical strenghth - not war... So, if Obama is against the idea of war, why protest the Olympics? I too, agree that the Chinese government is horrible, but this just isn't the time, nor place to discuss it. It's rude. They are a society based in ceromony and rich in culture, they will take offence.

I look at everything form all sides. I have said on many threads, that I even agree with many of the things that Wright said... The problem is Wright's message of seperation that I don't like. Black this, black that. I don't think race issues will ever be solved until everyone is looked at as equals. The longer we divide ourselves - well, the longer we will stay divided. It's pretty simple. That's not the world I want to leave to behind to my kids.

Aside from that, regardless of who's giving the message, or why, the message is pretty clear and these people remain the same. They are who they are. By their own admittance.


That's funny, and a good point.... Wright had a chance to clear up those sound bites and instead reaffirmed his message of hate. So, so much for 'sound bites'.

so, by your logic, how could he fix the entire country? If he can't manage to unite the leaders of one state, how do you propose he will do so with forty-nine others?

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Who would Jesus Bomb?

Of coarse it hurts. Your being screwed by an elephant.

Barak Obama - Half honkey - all donkey

"It doesn't matter who votes, it matters who counts the votes"- Joseph Stalin

See Jimmy with Hamas is exactly the same thing Obama has been stating about Americas enemies, Syria & Iran. No one is talking about getting rid of STRONG CAUTION. There is no where implied or otherwise with Obama that he's going to 'throw caution to the wind'...

He's more than experienced enough. I have spoken about this before in regards to the negotiations he was able to work out with the Chicago cops on videotaping interrogation. This was NO SMALL FEAT & his spearheading the moratorium on the Death penalty in a predominantly Republican legislature while a Republican governor was presiding. Honestly I don't know what more you can ask for in success & credentials with that scenario. Sorry.



The Olympics are many things. They have always been. It's just as political for China to be having this 'show' as you call it, as it is for others to call into question what they do. Sports IS socialized WAR. It always has been. Tons of political pride & self interest gets tied into the Olympics. Again history has so many examples...I don't even know where to begin.

Now to the whole saving face crap with China. See I know some intimate things about this from both being there & being married to a Chinese wife.
It's a tactic & a game they play in order to hide behind shit they KNOW that they do is fucked up & a way to live in denial. It's bullshit. I take that crap in one ear & out the other.

They are NOT a society based on ceremony & rich in culture. They WERE before the Communist eradicated it. Now they have the soul of a plastic glow light Buddha night lite. I am quite irritated at what they've done to their own history. As far as I'm concerned they are seriously fucked up in their soul because they on the one hand are EXTREMELY Nationalistic but ironically the form of government that they allow to rule was historically started by a German guy. Not exactly rich on Chinese heritage to me.


Yes & after Wright continued with his divisiveness after ALL the public controversy on Moyer's show. Obama had enough & completely severed him. Making it quite clear that though he's grown up around this culture of separation he wants nothing to do with it. He has shown in spades that he's about moving far forward the direction that our children whom seem to have been smitten by him, by the way, that that IS the way he wants to go. Now before you say. "ya but 20 years....blah blah blah." Let me make clear that if one knows what the culture is like & if they are as smart & aware as Obama has shown repeatedly that he is, he can fathom why it's not the way to go & communicate clearly, like he did in his first speech that very complexity & a way to move beyond it. In his second announcement in which he completely disowned Wright he showed the clarity of his focus & his direction by both allowing the controversy to damage him & giving Wright the rope to hang himself.

No Obama understands quite fine.

Again we are not voting in Wright. We are voting in Obama. He is not Wright & my previous analysis explains quite clearly why there's nothing to him anymore. It's time to move on...


Yup & he was smacked down by Obama. It's his problem not ours.


Well by my rather sound logic a president is not the savior he is the leader of the Executive branch. It has more power as one individual than the other but the collective nature of the legislative branch balances & siphons that power. It is the nature of our representative republic that it takes many to create the changes we want. Part of Obamas power is precisely the way his grass roots campaign works. He is getting a lot of infrastructure for the democrats to make big shifts in the electorate. If he gets the Democratic nomination, his gathering power from people that are genuinely interested in him will help push forward energy & momentum into getting new congressman & Senators elected this fall & the coming years. He has already decided to open his rather massive coffers from individual donors I might add to help create a financial coalition for getting funds to people around the country running for office.

This is the nature of his concept of change. It can be Change we can believe in because money speaks & in this instance that money is coming from small, individual American donors. This is the power...us.

This is what you are not getting yet. In time you will though. It's just the way of things.

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This is just plain fuckin' funny here...........Fuck you Crowshit.

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There is alot more than this one tiny thing. before anyone knew he would be a front runner for the dem party he was voted most liberal, thats on his voting record though.. not this one tiny thing.