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04-24-2008, 01:27 PM
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100 MPG Car,,,that's Illegal?
This caught my eye.
Brothers Team Up To Create 100-Mile-Per-Gallon Car
Motorists Looking For Fuel-Efficient Options As Gas Prices Surge
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Dana Kozlov
DU PAGE COUNTY, Ill. (CBS) ― With gas prices seeming to go up every single day, some people are more determined than ever to find different, more cost effective ways to get around.
As CBS 2's Dana Kozlov reports, the Ewert brothers have a rather advanced science project. But instead of a typical dry ice experiment, Chris and Andrew used batteries and a charger to make their hybrid Toyota Prius get 100 miles per gallon.
"My brother and I built this, and car companies should be able to do it, too," Chris Ewert, an electric vehicle enthusiast, said.
The car is the Wheaton brothers' way of lessening the dependence on oil and helping the environment.
It's something the DuPage County Forest Preserve has been focused on for close to a decade.
"Oh, we're making a significant difference in the environment," said the district's John Walton.
The district has hybrids and vehicles that run on four different types of alternative fuels, including natural gas.
"It burns at less than 10 percent of the pollutants of gasoline, and for the mile per gallon dollars, it's costing us about a dollar a gallon," Walton said.
If you want to forget about fuel sources altogether, you can go electric. Small electric cars get 40 miles per charge, costing three cents a mile, and are meant for local neighborhood use.
"With the gas prices going up and with the green movement, it's really unbelievable the number of cars we're selling today," said Dan Mack of the Electric Avenue Auto Mall.
The hitch is the vehicles are not legal in Illinois.
That's frustrating, considering Mack, Walton and the Ewerts are convinced gas is not the way of the future.
"There is no gas shortage today; there will be in the very near future," Walton said. "We are not going to have gasoline the way we have it.
What is illegal about adding a Battery, and a Charger,,,,or is it the hybrid Toyota Prius ? 
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04-24-2008, 01:36 PM
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I also saw a blurb on I think Glenn Beck about some car currently on the drawing board in France that runs on compressed air. It would need an engine to compress the air but they claimed that it too would get 100 mph and would have a top speed around 95 MPH. They are claiming they could sell the car for $18,000.00. If they can do this I certainly would look into buying one.
To me the issue with gasoline is not environmental but economic and geopolitical. Gas here in East Tennessee is pushing $3.50 per gal, up over a dollar a gallon from last year. This affects my pocketbook since I have to drive about 50 miles every day to and from my office. Furthermore, every dollar's profit the oil shieks make could be being funnelled back into groups that want us dead. If we could develop an alternative to gasoline we could return the middle east back to the stone age (unless of course they somehow cornered the market on 3 minute egg timers and could sell their sand)
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04-24-2008, 03:23 PM
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I also saw a blurb on I think Glenn Beck about some car currently on the drawing board in France that runs on compressed air. It would need an engine to compress the air but they claimed that it too would get 100 mph and would have a top speed around 95 MPH. They are claiming they could sell the car for $18,000.00. If they can do this I certainly would look into buying one.
To me the issue with gasoline is not environmental but economic and geopolitical. Gas here in East Tennessee is pushing $3.50 per gal, up over a dollar a gallon from last year. This affects my pocketbook since I have to drive about 50 miles every day to and from my office. Furthermore, every dollar's profit the oil shieks make could be being funnelled back into groups that want us dead. If we could develop an alternative to gasoline we could return the middle east back to the stone age (unless of course they somehow cornered the market on 3 minute egg timers and could sell their sand)
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I like your train of thought Nat.  But that still doesn't answer my original question as to "Why" the car they made is illegal in Illinois...
Both you and I would think this worth looking into. 100 MPG???? You and I would say fuck the Arabs,,,and the Oil Companies.
Now we have to deal with the Government Assholes saying this is not Legal...Why, pray tell?
Take care.
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04-24-2008, 03:32 PM
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I like your train of thought Nat.  But that still doesn't answer my original question as to "Why" the car they made is illegal in Illinois... 
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Well, in another "great" news article, they left that bit out. I have no idea, however generally it is because there is some other law, created for some other reason (like vehicle safety or perhaps transporting dry ice) that makes it illegal.
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04-24-2008, 03:45 PM
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Well, in another "great" news article, they left that bit out. I have no idea, however generally it is because there is some other law, created for some other reason (like vehicle safety or perhaps transporting dry ice) that makes it illegal.
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I'd have to say by past experience in dealing with Politicans, and the "Laws" passed to protect their "Contributors",,,it's based on Bullshit.
I hope you've noticed I haven't laid blame on either Party now in power...I blame them Both.
They've both stayed "Bought and Paid" for... 
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04-24-2008, 03:54 PM
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I'd have to say by past experience in dealing with Politicans, and the "Laws" passed to protect their "Contributors",,,it's based on Bullshit.
I hope you've noticed I haven't laid blame on either Party now in power...I blame them Both.
They've both stayed "Bought and Paid" for... 
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Oh, it is probably bullshit, my only point was that what makes the car illegal probably has nothing to do with its gas mileage. Bureaucracies aren't diabolical, they are stupid and plodding.
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04-24-2008, 03:58 PM
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They've both stayed "Bought and Paid" for... 
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Yep.
Good thread realist1
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04-24-2008, 04:16 PM
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Well, in another "great" news article, they left that bit out. I have no idea, however generally it is because there is some other law, created for some other reason (like vehicle safety or perhaps transporting dry ice) that makes it illegal.
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Tell me about it...I have to fill out 3 seperate Forms to inform the Powers that Be,,,they've fucked up in passing on information on test procedures I wrote.
That sucks... I give them a written and tested known valid Procedure,,,,they can't comprehend it,,,and then they have a "Group Grope" discussion on how to totally layer it behind a wall of Stupidity...
As Company Policy. With none of them having a clue about what they read to begin with... 
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04-24-2008, 04:20 PM
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I like your train of thought Nat.  But that still doesn't answer my original question as to "Why" the car they made is illegal in Illinois...
Both you and I would think this worth looking into. 100 MPG???? You and I would say fuck the Arabs,,,and the Oil Companies.
Now we have to deal with the Government Assholes saying this is not Legal...Why, pray tell?
Take care.
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There are many reasons the car may be illegal and nothing to do with the oil companies. It may be that its too small for the road. It may be that it has not passed EPA regulations, it may be that it hasn't passed various safety regs. Without knowing more than just your post it would be impossible to ascertain exactly why this car is currently illegal. It may be made legal by the simple addition of turn signals and air bags, who knows.
By the way, I would be willing to speculate that half of the cost of a new car today is government mandated safety and environmental regulatioins
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04-24-2008, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45
There are many reasons the car may be illegal and nothing to do with the oil companies. It may be that its too small for the road. It may be that it has not passed EPA regulations, it may be that it hasn't passed various safety regs. Without knowing more than just your post it would be impossible to ascertain exactly why this car is currently illegal. It may be made legal by the simple addition of turn signals and air bags, who knows.
By the way, I would be willing to speculate that half of the cost of a new car today is government mandated safety and environmental regulatioins
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They made the mods on this style car... "Hybrid Toyota Prius"...I could be wrong, but I think this is a legal Import.
Now the question remains,,,,,why does the Mods of an extra Battery and Charger makes it illegal? Keep in mind, 100 MPG.
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