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04-10-2008, 04:11 PM
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You could of course prohibit the possession of weapons on your property - well within your rights.
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>>>It wouldn't be within my rights if I lived in Florida. Charlie Crist is about to sign a bill that would allow people to keep guns in their cars even if they park on my lot.
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04-10-2008, 04:15 PM
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While I agree to a point, I believe it would be throughly immoral to fire someone under those conditions. I may have the right to fire them but would I win a lawsuit if I say, fired someone because they were not recycling in their home?
I guess in reality a better question would be SHOULD I FIRE SOMEONE UNDER THOSE CONDITIONS? What does that say about me, the employer and how long before most of my employees leave for a less controlling boss?
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That's how the free market provides equality.
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04-10-2008, 04:15 PM
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Don't worry about it, Skippy, I'll fire his ass for not polishing his shoes or some other such shit. Point is, he ain't bringing guns into my building or my parking lot. Btw, I've been "the boss" for about 25 years now.
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04-10-2008, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45
Does a business owner have the right to dictate what an employee may or may not legally have in his car? Could I fire an employee if he had a copy of Playboy in his car? How about cigars? I like motorcycles but am no fan of Harley Davidson, could I fire an employee if he had Harley parts in his car? Could I fire him if he had Ron Paul stickers on his bumper? Free Tibet??? If its legal to have a gun in your car how is it any different from the above?
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>>>You don't need a reason, Nate. Just fire him and worry about your unemployment insurance rating later.
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04-10-2008, 04:19 PM
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>>>It wouldn't be within my rights if I lived in Florida. Charlie Crist is about to sign a bill that would allow people to keep guns in their cars even if they park on my lot.
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In that case I would suggest NOT moving to Florida to open a business, and preventing the election of lawmakers who support such actions, where you do live.
Something people need to realize, there are limits on ALL rights, none of them are absolute, not one.
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04-10-2008, 04:26 PM
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In that case I would suggest NOT moving to Florida to open a business, and preventing the election of lawmakers who support such actions, where you do live.
Something people need to realize, there are limits on ALL rights, none of them are absolute, not one.
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>>>Rights or no rights, I got my own gun control laws.
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04-10-2008, 04:41 PM
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If your an American and believe in constitutional rights...then don't do business with George.
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"no one in their right mind believes that humans are the sole cause of the warming trend."
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04-10-2008, 04:42 PM
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>>>Rights or no rights, I got my own gun control laws.
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Just be careful they don't end up costing you more than you can pay.
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04-10-2008, 04:58 PM
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At my business..showing your firearm gets you 10% off all inanimate objects...as well as a free refill of your magazine
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Give a lib a fish--he eats for a day
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"no one in their right mind believes that humans are the sole cause of the warming trend."
You can hope for change--or you can get off your fat ass and change it yourself
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04-10-2008, 07:06 PM
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See, if you wear a pistol openly on a holster it is not concealed. If you have the proper permits you are protected under the law for having it on public property. That courtesy should not extend to private property where the soveriegnty of the property owner is. It is very hypocritical to say he is infringing on someone's rights for firing someone for whatever reason.
It is his business and he should be able to hire or fire anyone who works for him. Unless of course there is a contract signed by the employer that states otherwise.
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