North Korea: What should be done?

Chateauroux · #11 (**permalink**) 07-31-2006, 01:21 AM

Give us a break, Bloke! The last thing China...or South Korea, for that matter, would want, would be millions of staving North Koreans entering their countries. It would make the Berlin Wall breakup look like good times for the West Germans who had to foot the bill for it's demise.

bloke next door · #12 (**permalink**) 07-31-2006, 01:43 AM

You are right of course, we Aussies think of War as an affair of saving the most lives, kinda makes it hard to change overnight to feel the opposite. We have been that way since the Absurdity of Gallipoli. Before then it was boots on and where would you like me to die 'Your Royal Highness'. We found that if too many of our brave peoples died we were open to new immigration and that would mean anybody was welcome over, so we have gone the other way now. Sorry about that.

Skinny Fatts · #13 (**permalink**) 07-31-2006, 02:01 PM

I believe I heard the other day from Sen. Kerry that we should talk to them, I guess since it has worked so well in the past.

Chateauroux · #14 (**permalink**) 07-31-2006, 02:18 PM

For all you arm chair warriors wanted to invade North Korea or take out their missile sites, get your lazy asses down to the local Army recruiter or send your sons and daughters so you or they can lead the charge. "War is good business, invest your sons".

Politicon · #15 (**permalink**) 08-01-2006, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by bloke next door

That is close to the truth Politicon but your first action would be to take the head off the snake. Let them know that is what you intend to do and do it. A five second warning would be sufficient. The next guy will be full of persuationable impulses. Hit him just the same and in quick succession and you are left with a guy that will be lead around like a dog at a show. He is the best man to lead his people into the future that includes reuniffication with the South.
That is how the Iraq scandal should have been handled and it is how you can screw with the Iran men. I don't like to sanction death but at the cost of civilians as well as the soldier then what I opt for seems the right way to go.
The Romans had to take the place before they were able to offer this type of senario, you are the US of A, get out the scopes and light up the targets.

Agreed, taking the head off the snake would be the smart thing to do. The problem with this is that it was made illegal here is the US. I’m not saying that a covert ops mission wouldn’t still happen. I am not naïve enough to believe that buried deep in our government there on not black ops of ‘questionable’ legality. The problem is that you will never hear of this openly. Plus, tracking down the leaders is no easy task. As shown by our lack of ability to track down Osama Bin Laden, it can be very difficult to find a person no matter how pinned down he may be (Tora Bora). If it is feasible, yes by all means cut the head off. Unfortunately I do not see this as a feasible option. While North Korea could be conquered in open warfare, it could not be done without significant casualties.

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The biggest military concern in striking North Korean nuclear facilities is the threat of North Korean counter-attacks. Seoul, the South Korean capitol, lies within range of North Korean long-range artillery. Five hundred 170mm Koksan guns and 200 multiple-launch rocket systems could hit Seoul with artillery shells and chemical weapons, causing panic and massive civilian casualties. North Korea has between 500 and 600 Scud missiles that could strike targets throughout South Korea with conventional warheads or chemical weapons. North Korea could hit Japan with its 100 No-dong missiles.[7] Seventy percent of North Korean army ground units are located within 100 miles of the demilitarized zone separating North and South Korea, positioned to undertake offensive ground operations. These units could fire up to 500,000 artillery rounds per hour against South Korean defenses for several hours.[8]

http://cns.miis.edu/research/korea/dprkmil.htm

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The North Koreans have a large special operations capability. There are 120,000 soldiers involved. "These are highly trained, well-resourced units that are capable of conducting strategic reconnaissance and direct action," LaPorte said, noting they train to infiltrate by sea, land and air.
The North Korean air force and navy are an "aged" force, LaPorte said. Still, with nearly 100, the North Koreans have the largest submarine force in the world. Most of the boats are small and would be used for infiltration or mine laying.

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Aug2...0826_2546.html

The question that I must ask at the moment is does North Korea pose a big enough threat for military action. While I will not tolerate North Korea controlling nuclear weapons or North Korea aggression, I also must ask if it’s worth the cost...yet

TRT14 · #16 (**permalink**) 08-01-2006, 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by allaboutpeace2006

I think the U.S. should invade North Korea and end the dictatorship that exsist there.

Wait... you are all about peace (apparently), and you want an invasion? Isn't that a little unpeaceful?

#17 (**permalink**) 08-14-2006, 10:39 AM

Attempt to isolate NK from the foreign aid the keeps him afloat, albiet just barely.

Despite their very provocative style, the NKs have been careful NOT to actually start a war ever since the cease-fire in 1953 - 53 years ago. They know they would get their asses handed to them.

NK, for pratical combat purposes, doesn't have an air force. They don't have the money to properly train their pilots. They get so little flight time that they can barely take off and land. In combat, they would be "targets".

BTW - The US would not be the main fighter against NK. That would be SK, and they have a very competent military.

Skinny Fatts · #18 (**permalink**) 08-14-2006, 07:01 PM

Abandon hope all ye who enter here.

CougFan23 · #19 (**permalink**) 08-30-2006, 03:52 PM

Invading North Korea is not even feasible at this point. The US doesn't have the military man power or resources anymore to do the job right. North Koreans are starting to see that North Korea is not "heaven" like Kim Jung Il claims it is. Eventually, there will be some sort of revolution in N. Korea. Whether that happens a month from now or 50 years is anyones guess. Another reason we shouldn't invade is because the nuclear missile defense system is starting to come online. Once this system is 100 percent capable N. Korea poses not threat to us anymore from a military standpoint.

The US should invade N. Korea for only reason. If they attack us, S. Korea, Japan or any of our allies. Otherwise it is wise to keep negotiating with them. They're not stupid enought to fire off a Taepodong at any of our allies because they only want the regime to survive

rob · #20 (**permalink**) 09-03-2006, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CougFan23

Invading North Korea is not even feasible at this point. The US doesn't have the military man power or resources anymore to do the job right. North Koreans are starting to see that North Korea is not "heaven" like Kim Jung Il claims it is. Eventually, there will be some sort of revolution in N. Korea. Whether that happens a month from now or 50 years is anyones guess. Another reason we shouldn't invade is because the nuclear missile defense system is starting to come online. Once this system is 100 percent capable N. Korea poses not threat to us anymore from a military standpoint.

The US should invade N. Korea for only reason. If they attack us, S. Korea, Japan or any of our allies. Otherwise it is wise to keep negotiating with them. They're not stupid enought to fire off a Taepodong at any of our allies because they only want the regime to survive

Ok guys, yes the NK doesn't have an air force but they do have a massive amount of Artillery to level Seoul and to push the SK back to Pusan. I was stationed in Korea for a year and I am telling you that the US doesn't want to start a land war there now.