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09-30-2007, 08:37 AM
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Well BD, lets keep it simple. There should be a separation btwn Church and State.......or the U.S. runs the risk of becoming a "RELIGIOUS THEOCRACIES", like the Sunni and Shia!!!!! 
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It seemed to do OK for over 150 years....until the supreme court built the wall of separation in 1947 from the opined decision of Justice Black.....now if you really want to see a constitution that has the phrase "separation of church and state" planted within its wording, simply look at a copy of the document that the people lived under when the USSR reigned......A COMMUNIST CONSTITUTION. BD
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09-30-2007, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by bluedog
It seemed to do OK for over 150 years....until the supreme court built the wall of separation in 1947 from the opined decision of Justice Black.....now if you really want to see a constitution that has the phrase "separation of church and state" planted within its wording, simply look at a copy of the document that the people lived under when the USSR reigned......A COMMUNIST CONSTITUTION. BD
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And we can all see where the USSR is presently....nowhere to be found.
And it actually says that in the 1936 Soviet Constitution!
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09-30-2007, 01:18 PM
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"I think that a free society would allow for a free market system and let the market determine price and wether the product produced is worth while."
>>>That would be cool - but capitalism is at odds with that.
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09-30-2007, 01:21 PM
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"but where would liberals buy food since the conservatives grow most of the food in the country?"
>>>Conservatives grow most of the food in this country because of HUGE SUBSIDIES. Not very conservative of them, is it?
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09-30-2007, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by George O Well
"I think that a free society would allow for a free market system and let the market determine price and wether the product produced is worth while."
>>>That would be cool - but capitalism is at odds with that.
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I really don't think its capitalism itself; certain people are able to manipulate certain parts of the economic system to get away with certain things.
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09-30-2007, 04:34 PM
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Yeah, like Stalin and Lenin abided by the Soviet Constitution when they killed millions through extermination campaigns and aggressive wars of Conquest.
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09-30-2007, 04:37 PM
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Yeah, like Stalin and Lenin abided by the Soviet Constitution when they killed millions through extermination campaigns and aggressive wars of Conquest.
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In no way can you say that capitalism compares to what these murderers did. Evil is what evil does, and absolute power corrupts absolute. All economic systems have some sort of failing associated with them.
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09-30-2007, 05:07 PM
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In no way can you say that capitalism compares to what these murderers did. Evil is what evil does, and absolute power corrupts absolute. All economic systems have some sort of failing associated with them.
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There is no such thing as the perfect economic system, but currently ours is one that has alloed for one the highest living standards in the world.
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09-30-2007, 05:41 PM
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How can any argue that our system needs to be changed? The facts are, this country offers the most freedoms with the strongest military for defense ever to exist upon the face of the earth. The ones that want it changed are the ones that are in fact "inferior" to its power and accomplishments......Sure I would want it changed to, If my way of life was "threatened" by a more successful one.....along with "my" power base. BD
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09-30-2007, 06:42 PM
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In no way can you say that capitalism compares to what these murderers did. Evil is what evil does, and absolute power corrupts absolute. All economic systems have some sort of failing associated with them.
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I agree. Capitalism is a form of economics. Communism is a oppressive theory that not only takes over Government and Economics, but daily lives.
Anyone who has any common sense can not defend Lennin, Staling, Mao, or any communist nation. It just can not be done. I laugh at Communists when they compare us to them. Cause quite frankly, America can always take the higher ground between communist nations and dictatorships...
At least for now.
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