Al-Qaida Plans Nuclear Attacks on 7 U.S. Cities

freedomlover · #21 (**permalink**) 05-31-2007, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bluedog

Just a dumb simple accident....that on one side is Iran...on the other side is Syria...and right past them....is Israel......line them up...Afgan. Iran....Iraq....Syria...Israel......You think the public is privy to all action of interest to our national defense....much unlike the Times...we do not need to know everything.....all we need to do...is allow our military the right to protect us......And the US very well knows that the people of Iran...are indeed friendly....these self described saviors of the world..are the ones that must fall...just common sense...to allow the people to take back their country.....As I said the US will not launch a first strike...they simply...allow them to dig their own grave. And you speak as if....both countries are a complete total mess...when in fact there but few regions of resistance within both countries....and the US military go an come as they please...in both countries......and we already have....close to 200,000 troops deployed....and it would be but hours....to have many more there...if needed. And are you really shallow enough to believe that Al Qaeda...is the only threat?...in any event...just where is this country of Al Qaedia....located that we may take action on them? What if we had every troop..in our military deployed to Afgan. Would this make you feel safer? I thought not.....one man will not put a stop to this idiocy.....all must be dealt with....if not now...when and where? BD

I simply don't understand you people on the Right. One of ya'll starts a thread about how big a threat Al-Qaeda is(I would say nuclear weapons is a pretty big threat) and then ya'll spend the rest of the thread trying to convince us that the threat isn't that important.

Ya'll constantly insist that we need this "troop surge" AKA military buildup, and then insist that things really aren't that bad in Iraq.

What would make me feel safer is assessing the biggest threat, and taking steps (ie-protecting our borders and ports) to make sure we are not attacked again.

So we invaded a country, deposed their government, imposed a puppet government -not because they were a threat to us, but because we wanted a wedge between Iran and Syria, and to protect Israel? Is that not your logic?

I certainly don't want anything bad to happen to Israel, but I think it's damn time we start protecting our own.

noneof yourbusiness · #22 (**permalink**) 05-31-2007, 11:15 PM

IF they think they can launch offensives against Syria from Iraq they are meth addicts. Not gonna happen

cat's meow · #23 (**permalink**) 05-31-2007, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mom_Adams

*in my best mocking monotone voice*

none of your sources are reliable

there is no such thing as al qaeda

there are no terrorists with nukes

there are no terrorists with any form of WMD

there are no terrorists

there is no such thing as a war on terror

it's all Bush's fault for being born

Bush brought all of this on us

you're all fear mongers

*mock monotone off*

See, this faux humor is what you resort to because others have a difference of opinion (and ultimately facts)...so everything you believe is absolute? For a grown lady who is actually rather smart it is sort of disappointing really. You don't read specifics very well or take criticism at all.

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Bush brought all of this on us

Now that is an undistputable truth in terms of the Iraq war itself. Eh, he did get a good bit of help from Cheney though.

Mom_Adams · #24 (**permalink**) 05-31-2007, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cat's meow

See, this faux humor is what you resort to because others have a difference of opinion (and ultimately facts)...so everything you believe is absolute? For a grown lady who is actually rather smart it is sort of disappointing really. You don't read specifics very well or take criticism at all.

*in my best mocking monotone voice*

no conservative republican has any real facts

liberal anti-war, anti-bush facts are the only facts that are really facts

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Now that is an undistputable truth in terms of the Iraq war itself. Eh, he did get a good bit of help from Cheney though.

Bush, Cheney, Bush, Cheney, Bush, Cheney,

there is no threat only fear mongers

if there was a threat it would be Bush and Cheney's fault for being war mongers

*mock monotone off*

bluedog · #25 (**permalink**) 05-31-2007, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by noneof yourbusiness

IF they think they can launch offensives against Syria from Iraq they are meth addicts. Not gonna happen

No one said anything about launching an attack...I said we have strategic ground...that was done so by purpose of planning to gain the high ground as we have the borders and the waterways controlled....if we can keep a presence in Iraq...and boots on the ground....as the borders of both Iran and Syria are guarded on all sides...should conflict be needed to engage either or both of these nations....and this was no accident. BD

freedomlover · #26 (**permalink**) 05-31-2007, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bluedog

No one said anything about launching an attack...I said we have strategic ground...that was done so by purpose of planning to gain the high ground as we have the borders and the waterways controlled....if we can keep a presence in Iraq...and boots on the ground....as the borders of both Iran and Syria are guarded on all sides...should conflict be needed to engage either or both of these nations....and this was no accident. BD

What friggin world do you live in. We aren't controlling any borders over there. Oh wait, another contradiction:

What the left heres from the right: It isn't a civil war, Iran is sending people in. But we are controlling the borders

The Right speaking again: The Taliban is getting arms from Iran (Gix just posted that today), but we are controlling the borders.

bluedog · #27 (**permalink**) 05-31-2007, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by freedomlover

What friggin world do you live in. We aren't controlling any borders over there. Oh wait, another contradiction:

What the left heres from the right: It isn't a civil war, Iran is sending people in. But we are controlling the borders

The Right speaking again: The Taliban is getting arms from Iran (Gix just posted that today), but we are controlling the borders.

Do you not have a map...if not... simply goggle one up.....The US military controls the borders in Iraq....whatever..you hear on the news...the US military come and go as they please...anywhere within Iraq.....the same in Afghanistan......either country borders the country of Iran.....you go to the other side of Iraq...you will simply find the border of Syria...again under the control of the US military....go to the other side of Syria....guess what democracies you find? That right....Israel....a strong US ally....and take a look at the water ways....who controls those? Have you really bought into the propaganda so much that you think we are actually losing the conflict in Iraq? We have some 150,000 troops there....the government has 200.000 troops.....all under the command of the US...there are a few pockets of resistance....but overall the country is under the control of the US military....my..my...my....do you actually think that all of us buy this left wing defeatist attitude....and we should just throw down our arms...because someone shows they are willing to kill women and children...how often do you see them engage the military...none unless by ambush or other cowardly acts....as to use women and children to shield themselves. BD

StormanNorman · #28 (**permalink**) 05-31-2007, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bluedog

Do you not have a map...if not... simply goggle one up.....The US military controls the borders in Iraq....whatever..you hear on the news...the US military come and go as they please...anywhere within Iraq.....the same in Afghanistan......either country borders the country of Iran.....you go to the other side of Iraq...you will simply find the border of Syria...again under the control of the US military....go to the other side of Syria....guess what democracies you find? That right....Israel....a strong US ally....and take a look at the water ways....who controls those? BD

BD, what do you mean by control? When you say a border is under control, does that mean that no one can cross it with out us knowing about it? Because, I hate to tell you, BD....but, those borders are pretty long and reach into some pretty austere areas. And with all of the soldiers in Baghdad and surrounding provinces, I don't think we "control" the borders quite as well as you think.

freedomlover · #29 (**permalink**) 06-01-2007, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by bluedog

Do you not have a map...if not... simply goggle one up.....The US military controls the borders in Iraq....whatever..you hear on the news...the US military come and go as they please...anywhere within Iraq.....the same in Afghanistan......either country borders the country of Iran.....you go to the other side of Iraq...you will simply find the border of Syria...again under the control of the US military....go to the other side of Syria....guess what democracies you find? That right....Israel....a strong US ally....and take a look at the water ways....who controls those? Have you really bought into the propaganda so much that you think we are actually losing the conflict in Iraq? We have some 150,000 troops there....the government has 200.000 troops.....all under the command of the US...there are a few pockets of resistance....but overall the country is under the control of the US military....my..my...my....do you actually think that all of us buy this left wing defeatist attitude....and we should just throw down our arms...because someone shows they are willing to kill women and children...how often do you see them engage the military...none unless by ambush or other cowardly acts....as to use women and children to shield themselves. BD

You are hilarious. "the US military come and go as they please, anywhere in Iraq". Yep, they're having a friggin picnic; and sun-drenched vacation.

bluedog · #30 (**permalink**) 06-01-2007, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by StormanNorman

BD, what do you mean by control? When you say a border is under control, does that mean that no one can cross it with out us knowing about it? Because, I hate to tell you, BD....but, those borders are pretty long and reach into some pretty austere areas. And with all of the soldiers in Baghdad and surrounding provinces, I don't think we "control" the borders quite as well as you think.

You play the game of semantics as does all leftest people....the border can be secured at any time...if needed....at this moment in time the troops are busy being target practice around the capital city...as the Iraqi troops are lacking the will to do so......yes these borders are within the control of US military....if needed. A simple fact...no we have no one stationed there in force....you think this might just be perceived as a build up to invasion? You think our military leaders are idiots?.....apparently so....with all the micro management by the politicians. But the fact remains...the US military can come and go "ANYWHERE"....within Iraq...or Afghanistan....and this fact allows any and all re-enforcements should the need be called upon....BD