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05-22-2008, 04:22 PM
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Former Detainee Describes 'Water Treatment'
Murat Kurnaz told members of Congress today he was subjected to "water treatment," electric shocks and other abuse during the almost five years he spent in U.S. custody, putting a face to the Justice Department's inspector general report released today, detailing abuses witnessed by FBI agents overseas at detention facilities run by the military and CIA.
Kurnaz, a Turkish citizen, was arrested in Pakistan in late 2001 after the 9/11 attacks while he traveled with a religious tourism group, and was eventually handed over to U.S. forces. He was held in U.S. facilities in Afghanistan and then at Guantanamo Bay.
Speaking to the House Foreign Affairs Committee via video link from Germany with his lawyer at his side, Kurnaz described how he was abused while he was held at a U.S. base in Kandahar, Afghanistan, and described how he was subjected to "water treatment" while in custody.
"They stuck my head into a bucket of water and punched me in the stomach," he said. "I inhaled the water. ... It was a strong punch."
Former Detainee Describes 'Water Treatment'
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05-22-2008, 10:26 PM
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And we should take the words of people who commit acts of terrorism all over the world at face value because... you feel sorry for them? Or you just hate the US that damn much?
I have 3 words for this...
I
Dont
Care
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05-22-2008, 10:28 PM
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That's why you're a grunt, dumbshit.
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05-22-2008, 10:34 PM
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That's why you're a grunt, dumbshit.
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And thats why youre a liberal, dumbshit. Ready for round.... oh christ how many fucking times do I have to correct you? Well call this round 80.
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05-22-2008, 10:40 PM
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Imma conservative, Gomer.
Yer an Idiot.
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05-22-2008, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by A. Crowley
Imma conservative, Gomer.
Yer an Idiot.
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If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...
That is unless you are the only conservative holding core liberal values.
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05-22-2008, 11:24 PM
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This is bullshit. Ya know lots of you dooshbags thnk huger pages mean inteligence. More words dont mean good words. Theres no need to entertain such obviously contrived right wing pundit spin with any further discourse. Bullshit really is all that you need to say here.
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05-23-2008, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by dirtyp
Murat Kurnaz told members of Congress today he was subjected to "water treatment," electric shocks and other abuse during the almost five years he spent in U.S. custody, putting a face to the Justice Department's inspector general report released today, detailing abuses witnessed by FBI agents overseas at detention facilities run by the military and CIA.
Kurnaz, a Turkish citizen, was arrested in Pakistan in late 2001 after the 9/11 attacks while he traveled with a religious tourism group, and was eventually handed over to U.S. forces. He was held in U.S. facilities in Afghanistan and then at Guantanamo Bay.
Speaking to the House Foreign Affairs Committee via video link from Germany with his lawyer at his side, Kurnaz described how he was abused while he was held at a U.S. base in Kandahar, Afghanistan, and described how he was subjected to "water treatment" while in custody.
"They stuck my head into a bucket of water and punched me in the stomach," he said. "I inhaled the water. ... It was a strong punch."
Former Detainee Describes 'Water Treatment'
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Ah, more anti-American nonsense from another anti-American Paulista. If you think this kind of crap is going to persuade true conservatives to vote for your kooky candidate, you're even more deluded than I thought.
The bottom line is: If it saves ONE American life, I'll dunk the head of every fucking terrorist we have in custody and kick him in the 'nads.
...and I'll lay my head down in peace later that night.
That's the difference between those of us who support VICTORY in the war on terror and those of you who want to see this country defeated for some fucked-up, perverted reason. Shame on you.
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05-23-2008, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Super Patriot
Ah, more anti-American nonsense from another anti-American Paulista. If you think this kind of crap is going to persuade true conservatives to vote for your kooky candidate, you're even more deluded than I thought.
The bottom line is: If it saves ONE American life, I'll dunk the head of every fucking terrorist we have in custody and kick him in the 'nads.
...and I'll lay my head down in peace later that night.
That's the difference between those of us who support VICTORY in the war on terror and those of you who want to see this country defeated for some fucked-up, perverted reason. Shame on you.
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Maybe torture would save 1 American life. On the other hand, how do you know it won't lead to the slaughter of hundreds? Is it still worth it?
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05-23-2008, 08:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Super Patriot
Ah, more anti-American nonsense from another anti-American Paulista. If you think this kind of crap is going to persuade true conservatives to vote for your kooky candidate, you're even more deluded than I thought.
The bottom line is: If it saves ONE American life, I'll dunk the head of every fucking terrorist we have in custody and kick him in the 'nads.
...and I'll lay my head down in peace later that night.
That's the difference between those of us who support VICTORY in the war on terror and those of you who want to see this country defeated for some fucked-up, perverted reason. Shame on you.
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Amen to that.
Let's look at this logically, you’re in the CIA and you just tortured this dumb ass. Are you going to let him go? So he can go testify? No you’re not, your going to disappear him.
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