Former Detainee Describes 'Water Treatment'

A. Crowley · #21 (**permalink**) 05-23-2008, 08:56 AM

So...

You and Carson are old Marine buddies, and tough as nails, right?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH A!!!!!!!!!

Is Illiteracy required for enlistment to Grunting?

freedomlover1 · #22 (**permalink**) 05-23-2008, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BO Nafide

Yeh, I can see it now. This guys walking down the street and the CIA just pops up and grabs him, transports him to some secret base, tortures him, then lets him go. Why? They don't have enough other people to play with?

Isn't it more likely he was in the wrong place doing the wrong thing? Then when he spilled his guts, the CIA let him go to encourage others to talk?

Hmmm, your probably right. Our government has never picked up anyone that was innocent. I mean, if your picked up, even here in the US, you must have done something wrong, right?

And let me see if I am following your train of thought properly. Do you really believe that they are just going to turn a terrorist loose? Even if they have proof that he is a terrorist, or belongs to a terrorist organization? Do you REALLY believe that?

Carson · #23 (**permalink**) 05-23-2008, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 36shadow

Well if you had the balls to go to Marine Corps boot camp and the heart to finish it you could answer that question yourself. Granted they are not as hard on us now as they were in the 80's but I still doubt you could make it. Oh but then you already know this to be true thats why you never enlisted and tried.

I don't doubt Cowardley could make it, I know he couldn't, what a pussy. Is that avatar pic your house?

Carson · #24 (**permalink**) 05-23-2008, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by A. Crowley

So...

You and Carson are old Marine buddies, and tough as nails, right?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH A!!!!!!!!!

Is Illiteracy required for enlistment to Grunting?

Don't want to talk about yourself Cowardley? I understand there is nothing good to say

36shadow · #25 (**permalink**) 05-23-2008, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by A. Crowley

So...

You and Carson are old Marine buddies, and tough as nails, right?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH A!!!!!!!!!

Is Illiteracy required for enlistment to Grunting?

I have never met carson don't even know if I like him. But if he is a Marine then ya we are brothers. Tough as nails boy you have a lot to learn pussy it aint all about that it is mostly about heart and pushing yourself and when you hurt and think you no longer can or you think your body is no longer able you do anyway. You reach down deep inside and find a reason greater than yourself. You can have all the strength in the world if you don't have heart you ain't going to be able to do it. You mock all you want we know it is because your a pussy and you can lie to us but not to yourself. You fight someone with heart and you have a problem you fight someone that is strong , fit , trained and has heart , well then your fucked.

36shadow · #26 (**permalink**) 05-23-2008, 09:10 AM

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I don't doubt Cowardley could make it, I know he couldn't, what a pussy. Is that avatar pic your house?

ya and my green chevy behind my daughter

BO Nafide · #27 (**permalink**) 05-23-2008, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by BO Nafide
Yeh, I can see it now. This guys walking down the street and the CIA just pops up and grabs him, transports him to some secret base, tortures him, then lets him go. Why? They don't have enough other people to play with? Who knows, there is no info posted, its just speculation. I hate it when thread starters do that. They bring up a topic and leave it up to assumptions to keep the debate going. People need to get there shit together. No hate.
Isn't it more likely he was in the wrong place doing the wrong thing? He was a tourist, so no I don't think that was likely. Then when he spilled his guts, the CIA let him go to encourage others to talk?

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Originally Posted by Carson

How would that encourage others to talk? And you don't know if he spilled his guts or not. Like I said this kinda thread is pure speculation.

OK, it’s speculation. When it’s thrown out here as The U.S. is bad and nobody has the whole story, I feel free to speculate in my fashion. IMHO, to assume the U.S. of America is just grabbing people off the streets, with no proof, just on the say so of some smuck, shows a lot of hate and bias.

Here's how releasing him encourages others to talk.

Five people in captivity, no one's talking. Take one down, drowned him a little bit, when he talks he gets let go. Now the next guy knows he's going to get the same or worse treatment, He also knows he will eventually talk, he also knows if he talks he has a good chance of walking away. What do you think he'll do? or the next one?

At least thats the way we used to do it

BO Nafide · #28 (**permalink**) 05-23-2008, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by freedomlover1

Hmmm, your probably right. Our government has never picked up anyone that was innocent. I mean, if your picked up, even here in the US, you must have done something wrong, right?

And let me see if I am following your train of thought properly. Do you really believe that they are just going to turn a terrorist loose? Even if they have proof that he is a terrorist, or belongs to a terrorist organization? Do you REALLY believe that?

Every time I've been picked up, I was fucking up.

He maybe small fish. He may have given up a big fish. Kind of like not prosecuting a small drug dealer to get a big drug dealer. Things are complicated and seldom black and white.

Carson · #29 (**permalink**) 05-23-2008, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 36shadow

ya and my green chevy behind my daughter

I can't see that but looks like a nice place. So how long does it take to decide whether you like somebody or not? Anyways I'm sure half of this site hates me but I don't give a fuck. At least I got the balls to state my opinion and don't go around talking shit without anything positive to add like Cowardley. Fucking bitchass.

Carson · #30 (**permalink**) 05-23-2008, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BO Nafide

Originally Posted by BO Nafide
Yeh, I can see it now. This guys walking down the street and the CIA just pops up and grabs him, transports him to some secret base, tortures him, then lets him go. Why? They don't have enough other people to play with? Who knows, there is no info posted, its just speculation. I hate it when thread starters do that. They bring up a topic and leave it up to assumptions to keep the debate going. People need to get there shit together. No hate.
Isn't it more likely he was in the wrong place doing the wrong thing? He was a tourist, so no I don't think that was likely. Then when he spilled his guts, the CIA let him go to encourage others to talk?

OK, it’s speculation. When it’s thrown out here as The U.S. is bad and nobody has the whole story, I feel free to speculate in my fashion. IMHO, to assume the U.S. of America is just grabbing people off the streets, with no proof, just on the say so of some smuck, shows a lot of hate and bias.
Thats something there are facts about so we don't have to speculate. He was not grabbed off the street he was detained by the Afghans and turned over to US forces.Here's how releasing him encourages others to talk.

Five people in captivity, no one's talking. Take one down, drowned him a little bit, when he talks he gets let go. Now the next guy knows he's going to get the same or worse treatment, He also knows he will eventually talk, he also knows if he talks he has a good chance of walking away. What do you think he'll do? or the next one? That all depends on whether or not there actually something going on. We don't know. If nothings going on all your gonna get is lies because there are no truths to uncover.

At least thats the way we used to do it

Where was it that you practiced your interrogation techniques?