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05-13-2008, 04:22 PM
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I can't help it if there are idiots who use it that way. And that idiots use it that way no way detracts from what Darwin said any more than the idiots who mis-use the bible takes away from what it says.
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Isn't that the truth!
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05-14-2008, 02:43 AM
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One pile of crap smells more than the other.
An explosion created the human conscience? That has zero credibility.
How can evolution and the start of life be two different subjects?
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No an explosion created the universe.
The start of life has nothing to do with evolution, it's like you decided to learn to drive before the first car was invented. They're related, but exist separately. Evolution is what started happening after life came into existence. Organisms became more complex as they adapted to local conditions, some went forward, some died out, etc. As conditions changed, so did life, which is why there are some many species, because they have found a place in nature.
Evolution doesn't address how life started, and in fact, it doesn't matter. Life could have come about in many different ways, all evolution cares about is what life did after it came into existence..
It's not science's fault that the jews decided to tie it all together in their holy book.
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05-14-2008, 02:46 AM
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I can appreciate your defense of the theory of evolution but many people that support the theory of Evolution disagree with your views.
Evolution is being used by these people to define the creation of mankind. 
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Same deal with people who believe that certain passages in the bible justify racism, or burning witches.
Not everyone uses a hammer to pound on nails, some prefer to use it on their fingers, or other people's skulls.
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05-14-2008, 11:23 AM
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No an explosion created the universe.
The start of life has nothing to do with evolution, it's like you decided to learn to drive before the first car was invented. They're related, but exist separately. Evolution is what started happening after life came into existence. Organisms became more complex as they adapted to local conditions, some went forward, some died out, etc. As conditions changed, so did life, which is why there are some many species, because they have found a place in nature.
Evolution doesn't address how life started, and in fact, it doesn't matter. Life could have come about in many different ways, all evolution cares about is what life did after it came into existence..
It's not science's fault that the jews decided to tie it all together in their holy book.
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Tell this to the Public school Teachers that are forcing the theory of evolution upon children.
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05-14-2008, 11:30 AM
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Tell this to the Public school Teachers that are forcing the theory of evolution upon children.
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Well, if you want biology taught in schools, you sort of have to teach evolution.
If you don't want to teach evolution, don't teach biology.
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05-14-2008, 12:24 PM
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Well, if you want biology taught in schools, you sort of have to teach evolution.
If you don't want to teach evolution, don't teach biology.
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The same could be said for any type beliefs, but open debate has been eliminated.
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05-14-2008, 12:28 PM
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STFU, troll.
Since you didn't GO to school, you're just talking outta yer arse, again.
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05-14-2008, 12:30 PM
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The same could be said for any type beliefs, but open debate has been eliminated.
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Because scientifically there is no debate on the topic. Evolution is a scientific fact. Now you can deny that this is true, but you won't find any real scientist to support you. And unless you don't want to have any science taught in school, you sort of have to let the scientists teach science.
And before you answer, just remember that nearly all the benefits of modern life are a result of applying scientific principles. I would find it HIGHLY hypocritical for someone to accept the benefits while attacking the principles that led to the benefits.
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05-14-2008, 12:57 PM
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Because scientifically there is no debate on the topic. Evolution is a scientific fact. Now you can deny that this is true, but you won't find any real scientist to support you. And unless you don't want to have any science taught in school, you sort of have to let the scientists teach science.
And before you answer, just remember that nearly all the benefits of modern life are a result of applying scientific principles. I would find it HIGHLY hypocritical for someone to accept the benefits while attacking the principles that led to the benefits.
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Are you speaking of the scientific principals of the big bang theory that is used to connect the creation of the universe and evolution? If so, please provide these scientific principals. 
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05-14-2008, 01:26 PM
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Are you speaking of the scientific principals of the big bang theory that is used to connect the creation of the universe and evolution? If so, please provide these scientific principals. 
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Observation, hypothesis, experimentation, theory....followed by more observations & experimentations, theory augmentation (if necessary), etc....
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