Big Game?

justme · #11 (**permalink**) 11-04-2007, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cat's meow

The Pats deserve this win and really did hang in there, they are quite good but I am not convinced they could beat the Colts again.

This from the same man that thought U Texas might go undefeated.

I'm betting on the Pats fer sure now.

Dom1 · #12 (**permalink**) 11-05-2007, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by justme

Manning to Harrison is a good team. However, Harrison would not have done anything (directly) to stop the Pats from scoring 14 pts in about 9 mins.
Both the defenses are a lot stouter than I thought they were. Never thought a Pat/Colts game would be a defensive struggle.

Yes he could have. He could have allowed the Colts to keep moving the chains. He also wouldn't have dropped the TD pass that his replacement did in the second quarter.

Upton · #13 (**permalink**) 11-05-2007, 01:05 PM

This rivalry just keeps getting more interesting.

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Patriots complain about crowd noise

By Jason Cole

Monday, Nov 5, 2007 12:13 pm EST

The NFL is looking into allegations that the Indianapolis Colts piped in noise during the game Sunday between the Colts and the Patriots. The charge comes after Patriots President Jonathan Kraft became the latest NFL team executive to accuse the Colts of the distracting tactic that is against the rules.

"We're aware of it and we're looking into it," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said Monday. "It may just be the TV feed from CBS, but we're checking it out."

Observers at the game said there seemed to be a "skip" in the sound during the game Sunday, which the Patriots won 24-20. That might confirm the long-held suspicion among many people in the NFL that the Colts play loud crowd noise to help distract opponents when the other team is on offense.

"We're aware of the accusations, but there has never been anything to substantiate it," Aiello said.

Kraft approached NFL Vice President of Security Milt Ahlerich after Kraft and his parents, Patriots owners Bob and Myra Kraft, left the Patriots locker room after the game.

Kraft was angry as he told Ahlerich the league needed to look into the allegation. Ahlerich is the same person who confiscated a videotape made by the Patriots during a game against the New York Jets in Week 2 that led to the Spygate controversy.

In addition, New England quarterback Tom Brady also commented on how loud it was in the RCA Dome.

"I don't know how you measure levels of being deaf, but we couldn't hear anything out there," Brady said.

This is the latest in a string of incidents between the teams that have fueled the growing Colts-Pats rivalry. In the past, Colts General Manager Bill Polian has vehemently argued that the Patriots have bent the rules in terms of use of replay challenges and the pass interference rule.

Patriots complain about crowd noise - NFL Experts Blog - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

sachem · #14 (**permalink**) 11-05-2007, 01:23 PM

Given the tape issue, Kraft should keep his mouth shut. That being said, it does add another layer to the rivalry. Go Pats!

Dom1 · #15 (**permalink**) 11-05-2007, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Upton

This rivalry just keeps getting more interesting.Patriots complain about crowd noise - NFL Experts Blog - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

They are bitches. Belichek thinks that since he cheats everyone else does also. Pretty sure that Tony Dungy would have nothing to do with anything like this. The RCA Dome/Hoosier Dome is extremely loud. I have been there for NFL games and college hoops games and it is extremely loud at times - I don't know where they are coming from with this one.

cat's meow · #16 (**permalink**) 11-05-2007, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by justme

This from the same man that thought U Texas might go undefeated.

I'm betting on the Pats fer sure now.

Yeah...USC was also rating #1 so there are a lot of people wrong out there huh...security in numbers this year

I pro football I make very few predictions, to much parity in all the teams. I am not sure you are betting on the Pats to do what...?

gdfather02 · #17 (**permalink**) 11-05-2007, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dom1

It was a good game. If the Colts had Harrison they win by ten. Not only was Harrison out but Gonzales was hurt. I thought the Patriots may run away with this one but I think if they play again (no matter where it is) that the Colts win if everyone is healthy. If the Colts offense could have moved the chains a couple more times, and they would have with Harrison, then the defense isn't on the field nearly as much in the second half. The Patriots showed they are one dimensional and the Colts aren't. I think the Colts did pretty damn good with only two offensive weapons . . . wait until Harrison is healthy.

Sorry Dom, there is just no reason why the Colts, who had a 20-10 lead late should have lost that game, period. The Pats buried themselves with penalties galore, and yet the Colts were unable to close.

You stated that the Pats were one dimensional; perhaps, through your reasoning, you should reverse that thinking if you are making the argument that the Colts needed Harrison.

Bottom line, the Colts had the Pats on the ropes, and they allowed Brady to bury them; that is what excellent quarterbacks do. The Colts had Brady beat down all day long, yet he does what a Hall of Fame quarterback does, takes what the defense gives.

Hence, the Pats won, and the Colts lost.

gdfather02 · #18 (**permalink**) 11-05-2007, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by justme

Manning to Harrison is a good team. However, Harrison would not have done anything (directly) to stop the Pats from scoring 14 pts in about 9 mins.
Both the defenses are a lot stouter than I thought they were. Never thought a Pat/Colts game would be a defensive struggle.

Exactly right.

With a 20-10 lead late, if you feel that strongly about your running game, and you feel that suspect about your passing game, run it down their throats. Show them why you are the reigning champs.

The Colts lost this game because the failed to seal the deal, and allowed an excellent quarterback to take it from them. The Colts played an excellent game for, what, three quarters. Unfortunately for them, there are four quarters in a game....

gdfather02 · #19 (**permalink**) 11-06-2007, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dom1

Yes he could have. He could have allowed the Colts to keep moving the chains. He also wouldn't have dropped the TD pass that his replacement did in the second quarter.

Something to ponder; are you saying that, without Harrison, the Colts don't match up well to the Pats? Because if you think about it, the Colts didn't have Harrison for, what, two or three of the Colts earlier wins (the Panthers and the Bucs), and they reached 7-0.

cat's meow · #20 (**permalink**) 11-06-2007, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by gdfather02

Something to ponder; are you saying that, without Harrison, the Colts don't match up well to the Pats? Because if you think about it, the Colts didn't have Harrison for, what, two or three of the Colts earlier wins (the Panthers and the Bucs), and they reached 7-0.

Panthers or Bucs do not = the Patriots though. As I said, one or two plays can turn a very close game like this one.