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Guilty conscience?
Jamie
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Lion - Be Forewarned
Oh my Jamie come out of your fantasy world . . . . must be the side-effects of studying a pseudo-science. . .
Lion - Be Forewarned
Let's see a nonsensical response. . . .where does that fit on the stonewalling chart????
Stonewall
stonewall (stōn′wôl′)
intransitive verb
1. Cricket to play only a defensive game in order to gain a draw: said of a batsman
2. Chiefly Brit. to obstruct a debate, negotiation, etc.; esp., to filibuster
3. Informal to behave in an obstructive, uncooperative manner, as by refusing to answer, withholding information, etc. when questioned
transitive verb
Informal to impede or obstruct, esp. by refusing to comply or cooperate with
Webster's New World College Dictionary
Stonewall Techniques:
1. Denial: (Complete Denial, Virtual Denial, Selective Denial)
2. Diversion: (Deflection, Avoidance, Counterattack)
3. Disguise: (Explanation, Qualification, Obfuscation)
1. Denial - A refusal to grant the truth of a statement or allegation
A. Complete Denial - A complete or blanket denial of all charges
B. Virtual Denial - Denial of entire charge because of a partial
inaccuracy in charge
C. Selective Denial - Denying parts of a charge because of an inaccuracy
in the charge and then ignoring all other aspects
2. Diversion - A turning aside or altering of the course of questioning
A. Deflection - To redirect line of questioning to avoid answering in
response to uncomfortable facts
B. Avoidance - Ignores question; reinterprets question; gives answer
to the questions as he would have liked it asked
C. Counterattack - Withering retort directed at questioner; hopes to
to make questioner look foolish or petty by exchange
3. Disguise - Camouflage of facts which a witness must readily concede
A. Explanation - Drown out uncomfortable admissions with self-serving
or irrelevant static
B. Qualification - minimize or soften admission by qualifying it or
mitigating it in some way
C. Obfuscation - To make so confused or opaque as to be difficult to
perceive or understand - Cloud issues, Muddy waters.
Political Mastermind
and again you lie. intentionally.
you haven't torn up jamies core beliefs. idiot, you don't even know what her core beliefs ARE! LOL!!!!
what you ARE saying son, is that she attacked your core beliefs and you were unable to defend them which pissed you off that you were shown to be lackluster and inarticulate, so you began to STALK her, wanitng the victory she denied you because of your own failings!
now, history is set aright.
oh and son? you are simply a wack job. disagreement has nothing to do with it. you are simply a wack job. period.
breathing faster yet son? armpits growing sweaty? LOL!!!!
so tell me wack job, want me to bring a mod from the other site over here to prove that you threatened the site owner which resulted in your banning over there?
Last edited by vincubus; 09-14-2009 at 06:48 PM.
Political Mastermind
you mean like your many nonsense posts? and they are many.
jamie opened a thread JUST for you to debate her, and all you could do was insult and quote long passages that had little bearing to the debate topic. she isn't stonewalling you and doesn't need to stonewall you. she has already beaten you TWICE...STOMPED you in fact, and you, fool, helped her. the second time, you opened a debate topic to discuss her core beliefs, and since you proclaimed no rules, so she declared herself the winner automatically. you set that up, and she took full advantage of your stupidity.
so yeah son, come out of your fantasy world that you hide in that tells yourself you are a threat to anyone. you aren't.
A pox on both your houses
I would never Jamie, the things I cherish above all else are knowledge and wisdom. I have no issues with someone who has a different opinion to mine just so long as they can discuss the issue rationally without resorting to the lowest common denominator as so many do. I guess it is a byproduct of feeling threatened.It's fine to disagree with me, Hyp. Just dont come back calling me a propagandist when you post propaganda alt he time. Dont sit there and call me a robot, if you are actually the one being the robot, and dont presume to tell me that Im using illogical fallacies when Im not...and we will be all goodShamgar just hasn't gotten it yet. He is the projecting robot who censors everything.
Jamie
"...the gross national product ... measures everything in short, except that which makes life worthwhile. And it can tell us everything about America except why we are proud that we are Americans. ”(RFK, 1958)
Lion - Be Forewarned
You are talking to the queen of speculation. . . .her "wins" are based on speculation. . . as well as her facts. . . . she just figures if you can be bullied into believing her "facts" you can be bullied into believing her "wins". .. .all blow and no substance. . . .
Power bends reality to its will. Power is the prism through which facts are filtered and distorted to fir preferred versions of reality.
W. Lance Bennett, Regina G. Lawrence and Steven Livingston. When the Press Fails: Political Power and the News Media from Iraq to Katrina, (Chicago: 2007), Page 139.
Reality is first constructed to fit policy preferences and then reinforced through continuous news management, including pressure and intimidation.
W. Lance Bennett, Regina G. Lawrence and Steven Livingston. When the Press Fails: Political Power and the News Media from Iraq to Katrina, (Chicago: 2007), Page 139.
Political Mastermind
you were up all night reading until you could find something to try and pin jamie down with? LOL!!! can we say...infatuation?
in other words, you are all blow and no substance. youi try to bully others into believing your "facts", and in your little mind you "win" and that is only based on speculation.
ok. and jamie STOMPED you in debate!!
oh, in case you haven't noticed, no one accepts your "reality" except you. that son, is delusion. yours.
Debate Ref
You would think he would get over it by now!
Jamie
Libertarianism isn't a magic bullet. Its past implementation caused a lot of the problems it rails against today.
There are lots of things that sound good, until you realize that they don’t address the actual problem. Why don’t people address the actual problem? Because that requires real re-ordering, and we don’t trust each other. We know irrational people will cause trouble, and that there are liars who will claim to do the right thing and then rip us off. But that’s a secondary reason. The real reason is that it rocks the boat, and that might disrupt what we have already, especially those small greedy pleasures that make our inner monkey glow.
Why libertarianism failsThe road to hell is paved with good intentions.
This means: good “as it appears” and good “in the structure of things” are two different things.
Why libertarians are daftPeople are in denial of this obvious fact:
Being part of a civilization requires you to cooperate with others, usually through some central authority or power.
Libertarianism and anarchism in denial
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