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Old 06-20-2007, 08:15 AM
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Default New study on what really caused the WTC destruction.

I know this isn't my work, but I think its good information from an expert.

Simulation finds 9/11 fireproofing key By STEVE HERMAN, Associated Press Writer
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INDIANAPOLIS - A computer simulation of the 2001 World Trade Center attacks supports a federal agency's findings that the initial impact from the hijacked airplanes stripped away crucial fireproofing material and that the weakened towers collapsed under their own weight.

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The two-year Purdue University study, funded in part by the National Science Foundation, was the first to use 3-D animation to provide visual context to the attacks, said Christoph Hoffmann, a professor of computer science and one of the lead researchers on the project.

"One thing it does point out... is the absolute essential nature of fireproofing steel structures," Hoffmann told The Associated Press. "This is something that wasn't done originally in the World Trade Center when it was built. It wasn't code at that time."

Mete Sozen, a professor of structural engineering and a lead investigator on the simulation, said Purdue researchers hope their work leads to better structural design and building codes to prevent similar collapses.

"In the unfortunate development that we shall have to design structures to survive such events, the methods we have developed and will be developing will be of great use to designers," Sozen said.

The animation, intended in part to help engineers design safer buildings, begins with a map of lower Manhattan as it appeared on Sept. 11, 2001. The video then shows a plane slicing through several stories of the World Trade Center's north tower and follows the disintegrating plane through the interior and out the opposite side.

The report concludes that the weight of the aircraft's fuel, when ignited, produced "a flash flood of flaming liquid" that knocked out a number of structural columns within the building and removed the fireproofing insulation from other support structures, Hoffmann said.

The simulation also found that the airplane's metal skin peeled away shortly after impact and shows how the titanium jet engine shafts flew through the building like bullets.

Ayhan Irfanoglu, a Purdue professor of civil engineering, said half of the building's weight-bearing columns were concentrated at the cores of the towers.

"When that part is wiped out, the structure comes down," Irfanoglu said. "We design structures with some extra capacity to cover some uncertainties, but we never anticipate such heavy demand coming from an aircraft impact. If the columns were distributed, maybe, the fire could not take them out so easily."

A 2005 report following a three-year investigation by the National Institute of Standards and Technology, a federal engineering agency, recommended that cities raise fire standards for skyscrapers and develop new materials that can better protect tall buildings from fire. That analysis did not blame the collapse on the steel or design of the towers, but instead focused on the damage to the fireproofing.

Shyam Sunder, the lead NIST investigator, said he was aware of the Purdue study and called it and his own agency's study "among probably the most prominent analyses that have been conducted in the United States."

The animation is the latest project by the Purdue team to assess the structural damage from the Sept. 11 attacks. The team also studied the impact of the crash into the Pentagon.

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http://www.cs.purdue.edu/news/6-15-07WTC.htm
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Old 06-20-2007, 10:59 AM
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How many times has eggs been said to be bad for you only to be told the next year they are good?? Studies fundning makes a different. I dont buy this just cause its said to be expert.
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How many times has eggs been said to be bad for you only to be told the next year they are good?? Studies fundning makes a different. I dont buy this just cause its said to be expert.
What do you believe and why?
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Old 06-20-2007, 11:12 AM
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What do you believe and why?
There were explosives in the building perhaps even detonated by the planes precence through a transponder or other device.

Fireman on video....I dont belive textual writing on the subject.... all mentioned bombs and explosions numerous times. ON video you hear there commo mentioning explosions as well. That day there was specualtion by the FBI about pre postined explosives and it was discused in length by many that day. The story was manipulated over time.
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Old 06-21-2007, 10:40 AM
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How many times has eggs been said to be bad for you only to be told the next year they are good?? Studies fundning makes a different. I dont buy this just cause its said to be expert.
So you are saying that no matter how many experts say that the planes did in fact destroy the towers, you will never believe it ?
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Old 06-21-2007, 11:03 AM
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Old 06-21-2007, 01:06 PM
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So you are saying that no matter how many experts say that the planes did in fact destroy the towers, you will never believe it ?
They arent experts. Anything written on this subject is manipulated fact in some form as far as I have seen.
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Old 06-21-2007, 10:43 PM
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They arent experts. Anything written on this subject is manipulated fact in some form as far as I have seen.
What a baffoon!
I am sorry noonethere but you have really buried yourself in a pile here.
No experts eh?
As far as I can see you are an expert in evading and prevaricating...
Very good, you see, you're a bigger idiot than you thought!
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Old 06-22-2007, 11:53 AM
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So you are saying that no matter how many experts say that the planes did in fact destroy the towers, you will never believe it ?
>>>One way or another, those buildings came down. After that, the story gets REAL murky.
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Old 06-26-2007, 08:04 AM
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So you are saying that no matter how many experts say that the planes did in fact destroy the towers, you will never believe it ?
An airplane never hit WTC 7.

Also, ask yourself this: If Osama Bin Laden was the mastermind behind 911 then why is he not wanted?


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