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  1. Real plane crashes compared to 9/11 flight 93's disappearing act.

    I am going to dedicate this thread on analyzing many Airline crashes that slammed into the ground and showing how much of the plane is left to prove it crashed there.

    This will be an indepth comparison to the crashsite of flight 93.

    Pulkove Airlines flight 612 crashed near the Ukranian city of Donetsk killing all 170 people on board.

    As the Tupolev Tu-154 reached 39,400ft. it stalled, went into an uncontrollable spin and slammed into the ground at over 500mph.

    Unlike America's flight 93 on 9/11 which somehow does a disappearing act of any evidence of plane......well, let's let the pictures do the talking.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20024365/

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-154





    Local residents react standing among the wreckage of the Tupolev Tu-154 at the crash site near the Ukrainian city of Donetsk, about 400 miles (640 kilometers) east of Kiev, in this Aug. 23, 2006, file photo. The crash that killed all 170 people on board.




    The following is a well documented statement from a former aircraft accident investigator who signed a petition for a new investigation into the events of 9/11....


    Col. George Nelson, MBA, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former U.S. Air Force aircraft accident investigator and airplane parts authority. Graduate, U.S. Air Force War College. 34-year Air Force career.

    Licensed commercial pilot. Licensed airframe and powerplant mechanic.
    Essay: "In all my years of direct and indirect participation, I never witnessed nor even heard of an aircraft loss, where the wreckage was accessible, that prevented investigators from finding enough hard evidence to positively identify the make, model, and specific registration number of the aircraft -- and in most cases the precise cause of the accident. ...

    The government alleges that four wide-body airliners crashed on the morning of September 11 2001, resulting in the deaths of more than 3,000 human beings, yet not one piece of hard aircraft evidence has been produced in an attempt to positively identify any of the four aircraft. On the contrary, it seems only that all potential evidence was deliberately kept hidden from public view. …

    With all the evidence readily available at the Pentagon crash site, any unbiased rational investigator could only conclude that a Boeing 757 did not fly into the Pentagon as alleged. Similarly, with all the evidence available at the Pennsylvania crash site, it was most doubtful that a passenger airliner caused the obvious hole in the ground and certainly not the Boeing 757 as alleged. …

    As painful and heartbreaking as was the loss of innocent lives and the lingering health problems of thousands more, a most troublesome and nightmarish probability remains that so many Americans appear to be involved in the most heinous conspiracy in our country's history."
    "If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them, will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered".......Some American



  2. the exact shaped hole for the flight 93 crash is shown on USGS images to have been there before 9/11


    There are MANY live Media reports that say there is NOTHING at the crashsite for flight 93 that shows it was a plane that crashed there.

    no plane........nothing!.......







    Flight 93 crashsite had no plane, no debris, no evidence.

    No reporters were allowed within seeing distance of the scene

    Just another amazing coincidence for 9/11.... flight 93 just happend to hit exactly where there already was an indent in the ground proven to be there before 9/11 by dated material from USGS...
    Last edited by creativedreams; 11-23-2009 at 06:44 PM.
    "If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them, will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered".......Some American

  3. Here are the images from the flight 93 crash where the plane wasn't there...never was.









    "If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them, will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered".......Some American

  4. Looks like somebody threw a smoke grenade in a ditch and had photos of guys in suits taken standing around a hole.
    "There's nothing magical about the 'success' of jews -- they're simply a highly organized and networked gang of thieves and murderers that have been perfecting their craft for over 2,000 years."

    How they do it.

  5. Here is a better comparison of what a real jumbo airbus compares to the site.



    Last edited by creativedreams; 11-23-2009 at 07:06 PM.
    "If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them, will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered".......Some American

  6. Quote Originally Posted by INRI View Post
    Looks like somebody threw a smoke grenade in a ditch and had photos of guys in suits taken standing around a hole.
    Yes it does.....
    "If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them, will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered".......Some American

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    Quote Originally Posted by creativedreams View Post
    Yes it does.....
    If Flight 93 didn't crash into the field in Pennsylvania; where is it?
    Quote Originally Posted by 9/11 was an inside job View Post
    unless he calls someone like Martin Luther King a nigger,comments like that of his arent bad

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    You need to take some colledge classes

  8. Truly a it vas a day of miracles!

    The first and last time steel towers collapse in their own footprint and for the first and last time passenger jets magically disappear upon impact.

    "There's nothing magical about the 'success' of jews -- they're simply a highly organized and networked gang of thieves and murderers that have been perfecting their craft for over 2,000 years."

    How they do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by creativedreams View Post
    I am going to dedicate this thread on analyzing many Airline crashes that slammed into the ground and showing how much of the plane is left to prove it crashed there.

    This will be an indepth comparison to the crashsite of flight 93.

    Pulkove Airlines flight 612 crashed near the Ukranian city of Donetsk killing all 170 people on board.

    As the Tupolev Tu-154 reached 39,400ft. it stalled, went into an uncontrollable spin and slammed into the ground at over 500mph.

    Unlike America's flight 93 on 9/11 which somehow does a disappearing act of any evidence of plane......well, let's let the pictures do the talking.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20024365/

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-154





    Local residents react standing among the wreckage of the Tupolev Tu-154 at the crash site near the Ukrainian city of Donetsk, about 400 miles (640 kilometers) east of Kiev, in this Aug. 23, 2006, file photo. The crash that killed all 170 people on board.




    The following is a well documented statement from a former aircraft accident investigator who signed a petition for a new investigation into the events of 9/11....


    Col. George Nelson, MBA, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former U.S. Air Force aircraft accident investigator and airplane parts authority. Graduate, U.S. Air Force War College. 34-year Air Force career.

    Licensed commercial pilot. Licensed airframe and powerplant mechanic.
    Essay: "In all my years of direct and indirect participation, I never witnessed nor even heard of an aircraft loss, where the wreckage was accessible, that prevented investigators from finding enough hard evidence to positively identify the make, model, and specific registration number of the aircraft -- and in most cases the precise cause of the accident. ...

    The government alleges that four wide-body airliners crashed on the morning of September 11 2001, resulting in the deaths of more than 3,000 human beings, yet not one piece of hard aircraft evidence has been produced in an attempt to positively identify any of the four aircraft. On the contrary, it seems only that all potential evidence was deliberately kept hidden from public view. …

    With all the evidence readily available at the Pentagon crash site, any unbiased rational investigator could only conclude that a Boeing 757 did not fly into the Pentagon as alleged. Similarly, with all the evidence available at the Pennsylvania crash site, it was most doubtful that a passenger airliner caused the obvious hole in the ground and certainly not the Boeing 757 as alleged. …

    As painful and heartbreaking as was the loss of innocent lives and the lingering health problems of thousands more, a most troublesome and nightmarish probability remains that so many Americans appear to be involved in the most heinous conspiracy in our country's history."
    Bullshit.

    Wheel rim,
    Landing gear
    Tire from landing gear
    Dozens of pieces of fuseloge (that we know about)
    DNA from passengers who boarded Flight 77
    Phone calls from passengers who boarded Flight 77
    Bodies from passengers who boarded and made phone calls from Flight 77

    All found at the Pentagon. Your "investigator" doesn't know what he is talking about; period. End of discussion.

    As for you, everytime your bring this up (you've done so repeatedly) you're shown that a plane flown by a pilot wanting to live as in the pictures you provided, looks much different than a plane flown by a pilot wanting to die and kill everybody on board.

    Obviously to everybody besides you and your Klan err I mean clan is that a vehicle--airborne or otherwise--traveling at a high rate of speed and impacting something is going to look much different afteward than a vehicle traveling at a low rate of speed and impacting the same thing.

    Obviously to everybody besides you and your Klan err I mean clan is that a pilot trying to level off, looking for a safe, soft place to land will have an impact that looks much different than one of a pilot not trying to level off, and gunning the engines to crash into the Pentagon.

    Obvious to all is also the fact that your crazy if you expect people to believe that terrorist in NY flew a plane into WTC 1, flew a plane into WTC 2 and then, for some reason, just hijacked two other aircraft and didn't crash them in the Pentagon in one case and have the controlls ripped from them in another.

    As for the wreckage.

    Here is the video, yet again, of what a plane crash--a much sturdier plane than a 757--looks like when it hits an object doing 500mph.

    http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0SO8Z2B1A...fv=RZjhxuhTmGk

    I guess we'll go through the same crap again in a few weeks when you get a different sock to post the same garbage. We all know your modus operandi; create a bullshit post then create socks to back you up.
    Last edited by candycorn; 11-24-2009 at 08:00 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by 9/11 was an inside job View Post
    unless he calls someone like Martin Luther King a nigger,comments like that of his arent bad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldman View Post
    You need to take some colledge classes

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    Quote Originally Posted by creativedreams View Post
    I am going to dedicate this thread on analyzing many Airline crashes that slammed into the ground and showing how much of the plane is left to prove it crashed there.

    This will be an indepth comparison to the crashsite of flight 93.
    You will have to live with yourself for your actions on this forum.

    Your tactic of belittling those killed on that day are outrageous.

    God may forgive you, but I won't. I hope you rot in hell for eternity.
    If stupid hurt, you'd be in a world of pain.

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