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05-28-2007, 06:28 AM
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I don't mean to be patronising but this thread is exactly the reason why despite having 17 of the top 20 universities eveyone thinks Americans are stupid.
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05-28-2007, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by King Kuranes
I don't mean to be patronising but this thread is exactly the reason why despite having 17 of the top 20 universities eveyone thinks Americans are stupid.
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With over 400 million people living here,,,with a large part of them from Europe, you may have a point. 
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05-28-2007, 02:30 PM
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explosives, now be quiet 
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Shit, you got me there. I'll shut up now 
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05-28-2007, 03:58 PM
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Yep...here's your answer: STEEL BURNS.
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05-29-2007, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by King Kuranes
I don't mean to be patronising but this thread is exactly the reason why despite having 17 of the top 20 universities eveyone thinks Americans are stupid.
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I think you do...You are British right? Fucking iSland monkees. Remember that your alliagence with America hasnt won you any "IQ" awards with the rest of the world. There is plenty of issues with that days events that can be examined and questioned easily, any bufoon denying that should not by aspousing any inteligence as your totaly fucking looney.
Blind fools dont ask questions. ITs absolutley brainless.
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05-31-2007, 07:22 PM
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"The only thing which I still question on the list is the obvious insider trading."
>>>You don't question the fact that there was not a single fighter covering DC even after the towers were hit an hour earlier? Or the fact that Bush stonewalled an investigation for over a year and then tried to appoint Dr. Strangelove as head of the Commission? Or that there are no traces of the black boxes, even if they were mangled and unusable? Or that bin Laden is still alive? Or that numerous people surrounding Bush WANTED a new Pearl Harbor? Lordy!
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05-31-2007, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by George O Well
"The only thing which I still question on the list is the obvious insider trading."
>>>You don't question the fact that there was not a single fighter covering DC even after the towers were hit an hour earlier? Or the fact that Bush stonewalled an investigation for over a year and then tried to appoint Dr. Strangelove as head of the Commission? Or that there are no traces of the black boxes, even if they were mangled and unusable? Or that bin Laden is still alive? Or that numerous people surrounding Bush WANTED a new Pearl Harbor? Lordy!
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There was no "obvious insider trading". Some simple research shows the trades may have been timed badly, but they had no nefarious purpose. This was also discounted by the 911 report. I know, that parts wrong...only the parts blaming Bush are correct.
George, whens the last time YOU saw a CAP being flown over a US city after an airliner crash? Surely they must launch fighters after any crash.
An hour into it, NOBODY knew what was going on.
Just imagine the tin-foil ideas going around if fighters HAD been dispatched immediately...Further proof the govt was involved, otherwise how would they have had those fighters in the air so fast? its really kind of funny.
Oh yeah, you forgot the Michael moore rhetoric about the bin laden family being flown out of the us covertly. Wasn't true, but then when did truth matter if it doesn't coincide with your view.
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06-01-2007, 10:48 AM
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"There was no "obvious insider trading". Some simple research shows the trades may have been timed badly, but they had no nefarious purpose."
>>>I didn't mention "insider trading".
George, whens the last time YOU saw a CAP being flown over a US city after an airliner crash? Surely they must launch fighters after any crash.
An hour into it, NOBODY knew what was going on.
>>>Bullshit. What kinda mindless Rovian/Luntzian crap is that? An hour into it, EVERYBODY knew what was going on. Everybody KNEW that two airliners had been deliberately flown into the WTC. And Andrews HAD to have that airliner on radar waaaay before it crashed into the Pentagon.
"Just imagine the tin-foil ideas going around if fighters HAD been dispatched immediately..."
>>>More mindless Bushie-speak. Two fighters in the air would not have aroused even the tiniest bit of suspicion in DC. And what da fuk do we have fighters for if not to protect the homeland and, especially, the capitol city? Spend the gas. The fighters were sitting at the end of the runway anyway.
"Oh yeah, you forgot the Michael moore rhetoric about the bin laden family being flown out of the us covertly. Wasn't true, but then when did truth matter if it doesn't coincide with your view."
>>>Point of fact, my man, (even though I made no mention of bin Laden) is that the bin Laden family was collected from around the country and WAS flown out of the country (before being interviewed by anybody) and while American airliners were grounded. I don't think anybody mentioned "covertly" except you in your make-believe world.
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06-01-2007, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by George O Well
"There was no "obvious insider trading". Some simple research shows the trades may have been timed badly, but they had no nefarious purpose."
>>>I didn't mention "insider trading".
George, whens the last time YOU saw a CAP being flown over a US city after an airliner crash? Surely they must launch fighters after any crash.
An hour into it, NOBODY knew what was going on.
>>>Bullshit. What kinda mindless Rovian/Luntzian crap is that? An hour into it, EVERYBODY knew what was going on. Everybody KNEW that two airliners had been deliberately flown into the WTC. And Andrews HAD to have that airliner on radar waaaay before it crashed into the Pentagon.
"Just imagine the tin-foil ideas going around if fighters HAD been dispatched immediately..."
>>>More mindless Bushie-speak. Two fighters in the air would not have aroused even the tiniest bit of suspicion in DC. And what da fuk do we have fighters for if not to protect the homeland and, especially, the capitol city? Spend the gas. The fighters were sitting at the end of the runway anyway.
"Oh yeah, you forgot the Michael moore rhetoric about the bin laden family being flown out of the us covertly. Wasn't true, but then when did truth matter if it doesn't coincide with your view."
>>>Point of fact, my man, (even though I made no mention of bin Laden) is that the bin Laden family was collected from around the country and WAS flown out of the country (before being interviewed by anybody) and while American airliners were grounded. I don't think anybody mentioned "covertly" except you in your make-believe world.
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More bull-shit. An hour into it there were still millions of questions.
Bushie shit or not, you should have heard the crap flying around on AOL that night based on armed combat aircraft patrolling over cities. !2 hours after the fact. And you really think the sight of armed military fighters over American cities wouldn't have drawn attention?????
The justice dept cleared the bin laden flight...AFTER the grounding was halted. Fact, my man. Check it out on a REPUTABLE site.
The only one living in a make-believe world is you...where military aircraft can patrol over major cities WITHOUT drawing attention
Amazing...the FAA had ,what, 10k flights they were tracking at the time? Which ones the attacking plane? Or just shoot 'em all down?
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06-02-2007, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Forza
9/11turth.org is where I get the list. Do I have the time to go through and verify all that information? Hell no. I have a life. However it does give links to sights with some of the info. I really cannot go through that list and tell you where every piece of infor comes from. I couldn't even if I wanted to. Don't ask something unreasonalble to try to put down my post.
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It wasn't unreasonable to ask where this information came from. Just glancing at it I found two things which are old news . . . one which was obviously a couple of years old and since disproven and another which was shown to be wrong almost as soon as it came out.
Why do you believe the information posted without checking any of it? That does seem to be what you are doing since you are not willing to verify, even for yourself, this information.
I posted where your post was dead ass wrong in a couple of places to put down your post. I then asked where the verification was for these things and you seem to be offended. If you don't want it challenged then don't post it. Or at least, peddle it to people who you know who want to think the same way you do and would never challenge any of it in a million years.
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