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07-22-2006, 04:54 PM
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Okham....How do you/your source find out about Chertoffs brother and other details? --vor
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07-22-2006, 05:39 PM
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Nevermind. I went to some of the web sites you posted. Are your posts just a restating of whats posted in 911research...... web site?
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07-22-2006, 05:50 PM
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While we are at it...i am an astronaut.
I hate to tell you, but being an astronaut is not that impressive; A school teacher, a congressman and an old man were also astronauts. It may be an honor to be one, but I worked with Nobel Prize winners and none of my associates felt in awe of astronauts. Oh, my credentials a Ph.D. in science from a major university.
I disagree with that....i feel, even on a small level, we are all posting our beleifs to sway others (in some way or another). Conspiracy freaks want to let the world know they have found the truth (no matter how deranged it is) and others want to show how misguided those theorists are.
I agree to an extent. When you are sharing beleifs on religion, philosophy or any general topic then credentials arent needed because it is purely subjective....however when one is talking of physics and engineering and passing it off as fact, well then their credentials should come into question.
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I hate to tell you, but being an astronaut is not that impressive; A school teacher, a congressman and an old man were also astronauts. It may be an honor to be one, but I worked with Nobel Prize winners and none of my associates felt in awe of astronauts. Oh, my credentials a Ph.D. in science from a major university.
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07-22-2006, 06:22 PM
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Hey O , I am not feeling too well today , so I will wait to respond to your post . Most likely tomorrow . Cancer treatment sucks , but dying is worse . Thank God I only have two more to go ! 
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Very sorry about your cancer.
As Orwell said, "War is Peace" and did you know Bush said that and it made the headlines just before the Iraq invasion. Of course Orwell meant it to show the insanity of a totalitarian state.
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07-23-2006, 12:13 AM
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Nevermind. I went to some of the web sites you posted. Are your posts just a restating of whats posted in 911research...... web site?
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For the most part a lot of it is direct quotes from the web site (hence all the quotes). When I find a good thing I don’t like to tamper with it too much. Also, I figured it would be better to quote it than to simply link to it because, not only does it allow me to highlight some of the main points I want to make, but many people (myself included) don’t always take the time to read through all the sites that are linked too.
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07-23-2006, 01:39 AM
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The points are still as valid though.
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07-24-2006, 10:44 AM
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Silverstein took out a policy on WTC just weeks before attacks (including a terror policy), great timing! Also what about the out of character massive insider trading on 9-10-01? Somebody new something. Also back to WTC 7 it was brought down like a classic controlled demolition, I have seen it time and time again. Why would pull it have two meanings, especially if the one means to demolish. I think you are trying to lose it in translation. Pull it means demolish it. One more thing I saw an e-mail from an IT guy inside WTC which explains the odd power-downs and lax security during the week leading up to 911, this would have been a perfect time to set the building up for pulling.
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07-24-2006, 08:07 PM
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Have you taken a look at the pictures on the bottom of my website? It shows that the building didn’t fall like a controlled demolition, but instead caved in where the gapping hole is. Also, Silverstein wasn’t never in the demolition business. How would he know the terminology? Further more, the fire department is a very organized department like the military. It has the chain of command and it is very much a combat zone. Just like the military uses the term pull back during a fire fight (pardon my pun) so does the fire department. Still, look at the pictures. Look at the top picture that shows the top buckling first. I bet you’ve never seen that before. Did Silverstein know? I would need to do more research, but the building didn’t collapse from explosives. If you have a counter for the evidence of the pictures, please let me know so I can look into for myself. I would also like to point out this. Here is the quote of Larry Silverstein trying to explain something to us in the 2002 PBS documentary ‘America Rebuilds’:
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“I remember getting a call from the, uh, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, "You know, we've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is, is pull it. And they made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse.”
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Dumb question, but why would the fire department be the one using explosives to destroy a building?
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07-25-2006, 10:47 AM
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I did not see anything to change my mind. I saw a diagram that was highlighted in areas that read "POSSIBLE DAMAGE FROM FALLING DEBRIS" The website is no different from those sites that claim 911 was an inside job, your site just takes the opposite stance. Conspiracy sites have photos, video, text and transcripts. I am not convinced, the building was wired whether Silverstein knew or not. I don't implicate the firemen as the bombers.
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07-25-2006, 05:12 PM
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I did not see anything to change my mind. I saw a diagram that was highlighted in areas that read "POSSIBLE DAMAGE FROM FALLING DEBRIS" The website is no different from those sites that claim 911 was an inside job, your site just takes the opposite stance. Conspiracy sites have photos, video, text and transcripts. I am not convinced, the building was wired whether Silverstein knew or not. I don't implicate the firemen as the bombers.
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Yes, that image in pointless. Did you look at the ones at the very bottom though? Scroll all the way down to the bottom of the page and you’ll see a series of images as the WTC 7 falls. What do you make of those?
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