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11-11-2007, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by OkhamsRazor
Simple, call the Homeland Security office, and tell them you are doing some fact checking for a freelance piece. Then ask them, point blank... Does Micheal Chertoff have any family ties to Benjamin Chertoff, story editor for Popular Mechanics.
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Or you can just go here: Benjamin Chertoff
Decide for yourself. Or you can take the word of a highly credible (  ) source like prisonplanet. LoL. No agenda there.
Does it even matter if he is? Does being distantly related to someone in a govt position automatically discredit anything you do?
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11-11-2007, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by justme
Or you can just go here: Benjamin Chertoff
Decide for yourself. Or you can take the word of a highly credible (  ) source like prisonplanet. LoL. No agenda there.
Does it even matter if he is? Does being distantly related to someone in a govt position automatically discredit anything you do?
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Ok, I'm willing to accept that. Nice one!
Doesn't help the crap science in the article, but...
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11-11-2007, 09:38 PM
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Machiavelli Incarnate
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OkhamsRazor
Simple, call the Homeland Security office, and tell them you are doing some fact checking for a freelance piece. Then ask them, point blank... Does Micheal Chertoff have any family ties to Benjamin Chertoff, story editor for Popular Mechanics.
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They already asked Benjamin Chertoff and his mother . . . they said no.
Quote:
Originally Posted by justme
Or you can just go here: Benjamin Chertoff
Decide for yourself. Or you can take the word of a highly credible (  ) source like prisonplanet. LoL. No agenda there.
Does it even matter if he is? Does being distantly related to someone in a govt position automatically discredit anything you do?
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The claim that Benjamin Chertoff was related to Michale Chertoff all came from one source. A bunch of other sites just copied from that source and then passed it on to their readers. Just like the insurance angle they had going for a while, it comes from one source and spreads. Fortunately for the CTers on here they haven't seriously attempted that argument. They were for a while, but they must have found out how wrong it was.
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11-11-2007, 10:34 PM
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The Popular mechanics thing is jack. Theres as amny out there stating the exact opposite.
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Everything you just said is total bullshit
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V8Ek...eature=related
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11-11-2007, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by noneof yourbusiness
The Popular mechanics thing is jack. Theres as amny out there stating the exact opposite.
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They mostly quote the same people so it doesn't matter how many out there say the exact opposite if they are getting their information from the same place.
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11-12-2007, 10:49 PM
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Look this is just another link bash thing. I wil not buy pop mechanics. You most likely wil not buy anything but. I will not belive that all the links oposing pop mechanics are done by people that you or anybody could easily discredit by just saying they are stupid. I continue to encourgage everybody to use whois websites to investigate websites. Its the best way.
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Cussing out low class inbreds isnt uninteligent, its honest
Good typing is not inteligent its dexiteritous.
Everything you just said is total bullshit
Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V8Ek...eature=related
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11-12-2007, 10:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by noneof yourbusiness
Look this is just another link bash thing. I wil not buy pop mechanics. You most likely wil not buy anything but. I will not belive that all the links oposing pop mechanics are done by people that you or anybody could easily discredit by just saying they are stupid. I continue to encourgage everybody to use whois websites to investigate websites. Its the best way.
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When did I discredit it merely by saying they were stupid? In fact, I can't remember saying they were stupid. I just remember calling them liars.
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11-13-2007, 04:14 AM
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Theres nothing that can be found online to indicate any units in PA avalible capable of shooting down that plane. I cant find any F-16 units tht could get in the air and to that site in the little time they had.
That said Ive still never seen that plane or any wreckage.
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Cussing out low class inbreds isnt uninteligent, its honest
Good typing is not inteligent its dexiteritous.
Everything you just said is total bullshit
Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V8Ek...eature=related
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02-21-2008, 10:35 PM
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I'm from New Jersey. The same state that this plane took off from. It was full of passengers from New Jersey. I personally don't care if the plane was shot down or brought down. All I know is that ever since 9/11/01, I HATE muslims! Fuck your silly-ass god! You people are fucked up!
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