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Old 02-13-2008, 07:39 PM
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Zionist, Infiltrated American Government agents. Trucking companies with Zionist Jews formley with the Israeli Military, Vans found with Jews and TNT................Awake America to the enemy within.............for their not at the gates..................their in our GOVERNMENT. OUR ENEMY WALKS AMONGST US. Crush them like Dust! Before you must bow down and kiss their feet!
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Old 03-16-2008, 02:04 AM
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IT so obvious it wa planned. Denalist republicans are simpley ignoring the obvious
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Old 03-16-2008, 04:43 AM
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7 World Trade Center - Debunk911myths

WTC 7... EXPLAINED!
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Old 03-16-2008, 07:59 PM
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Basically this link references all of the statements from this Popular Mechanics article. Nothing new, just rehashed, with revamped copy and layout.

Debunking the 9/11 Myths: Special Report - Popular Mechanics

While the site lists the authors of this article as "the editors." It has been widely known for sometime now that in fact the "senior researcher" of this piece (of crap) is none other than Neoconman Michael Chertoff's cousin, Benjamin Chertoff. Not to mention that the owner of the publishing company that distributes Popular Mechanics is a member of the CFR.

Chertoff Cousin Wrote 911 Propaganda

The article itself has been debunked for quite some time.
Popular Mechanics Attacks the "9/11 LIES" Straw Man

Next...

Oh, and I'm still waiting on an answer...

YouTube - BBC Reports Building 7 Collapse, 23 Minutes BEFORE it Fell!

How 'bout that! The BBC's reporters are so good they can accurately predict the future.
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Old 03-16-2008, 08:23 PM
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Never mind the fact that you've got Aaron Russo telling you that Nick Rockefeller told him 9/11 was going to happen.

YouTube - Rockefeller Reveals 9/11 FRAUD to Aaron Russo

I suppose Aaron was just another Hollywood type who was trying to drum up support for his movie "Freedom to Fascism." Even though he posted it to Google and Youtube so everyone could watch it for free. How sneaky! By giving it away and making wild claims against the status quo he completely opened himself up to liable against a family that can literally afford the best attorneys, and hit men on the planet. How crafty indeed.

How long will you let them tell what to think? Will you wait until every single thing that Russo refers to in that interview actually happens before you change your mind, or at least, open it?


For if you do, it will surely be too late...
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Old 03-16-2008, 08:31 PM
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Basically this link references all of the statements from this Popular Mechanics article. Nothing new, just rehashed, with revamped copy and layout.

Debunking the 9/11 Myths: Special Report - Popular Mechanics

While the site lists the authors of this article as "the editors." It has been widely known for sometime now that in fact the "senior researcher" of this piece (of crap) is none other than Neoconman Michael Chertoff's cousin, Benjamin Chertoff. Not to mention that the owner of the publishing company that distributes Popular Mechanics is a member of the CFR.

Chertoff Cousin Wrote 911 Propaganda

The article itself has been debunked for quite some time.
Popular Mechanics Attacks the "9/11 LIES" Straw Man

Next...

Oh, and I'm still waiting on an answer...

YouTube - BBC Reports Building 7 Collapse, 23 Minutes BEFORE it Fell!

How 'bout that! The BBC's reporters are so good they can accurately predict the future.
And yet you people STILL cant refute anything in the articles.

YouTube - But Larry Silverstein Said "Pull It"!

YouTube - How Fast Did WTC 7 Fall?

And for the BBC reporter? FDNY knew the building was going to collapse, they knew it at about 2 pm and evacuated the building. At that point the fire department had almost zero fire fighting capabilities and had to withdraw. The press obviously got hold of this information and some idiot made the mistake of saying that it had already collapsed. Just a dumb mistake by a dumb reporter.

But if you dont believe this, are you saying.... the BBC IS BEHIND 9/11?!?!?
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Old 03-16-2008, 11:22 PM
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Honestly I couldn't care less what you believe. I spent 3 years trying to convince guys like you that the official story is a joke. It resulted in my nearly being admitted to a hospital for exhaustion. I know the truth and that's all that matters to me anymore. Silverstein, the Commission, and anyone else involved in the governments explanation of 9/11 is full of shit.

I don't quote conspiracy theories, or movies like "loose change". I stick to verifiable, mainstream media outlets. Every single link listed here is fact. Check for yourself. If you can dispute anything I have listed here I would love to hear it.

WTC 7 - Silverstein's 'Pull It' Explanation Examined
Larry Silverstein, WTC 7, and the 9/11 Demolition
The Ultimate Con 9/11 Truth Documentary - Debunking Larry Silverstein's "Pull It" Comment Rebuttal

America's oldest fire fighting publication calls investigation of WTC "a half baked farce."
Fire Engineering - WTC "INVESTIGATION"?: A CALL TO ACTION
Fire Engineering - "Burning Questions...Need Answers": <i>FE's</i> Bill Manning Calls for Comprehensive Investigation of WTC Collapse

John O'Neill- The man who knew too much. Deputy director of the FBI and America's top anti-terror agent prior to 9/11. Quit his job in the summer of '01 publicly stating that the Bush administration was purposely blocking FBI investigations.(Died on 9/11, his first day on the job as head of security for WTC.)
WKJO, Who Killed John O'Neill?

Norman Mineta- Secretary of Transportation was in White House bunker with Cheney on 9/11, and heard him reaffirming orders to stand down. (His testimony to the 9/11 Commission was censored due to concerns for "National Security," and was not published in the report.)
How They Get Away With It

Sibel Edmonds- FBI linguist who managed to connect laundered drug money and 9/11 profits to Senate and House election campaigns. (Currently under Federal gag order.)
FBI linguist won't deny 911 drug money tied to election coffers

Robert Wright- FBI agent who was told to stop investigating Al Queda cell within the US a month prior to 9/11. (Currently under Federal gag order.)
YouTube - Robert Wright / Sibel Edmonds FBI SPECIAL AGENT ROBERT WRIGHT SUBJECTED TO FBI RETALIATION FOR TELLING THE TRUTH YouTube - The 9/11 Bush / CIA connection

Ben Fountain and Scott Forbes- Employees at WTC and witness' to several powerdowns and closures at the WTC for months prior to 9/11. (The letter Forbes wrote to 9/11 Commission was never addressed.)
YouTube - Could explosives have been planted in the WTCs? (Part One)

William Rodriguez- Janitor at WTC claims he heard explosions in the sub-basement and on upper floors following plane crash in North Tower. (Testified to 9/11 Commission in closed door session. His testimony is nowhere to be found in the Commission report.)
William Rodriguez

Richard Grove- Former employee of Silverstream. Claims executives at Silverstream, Marsh McLennan, AIG, and Kroll Associates all had prior knowledge of 9/11. (Has been threatened with his life on several occasions.)
9/11 Whistleblower Richard Andrew Grove Speaks Out on the Meria Heller Show | 911source.org

Cheney in control of NORAD on 9/11
YouTube - Alex Jones - Cheney in Control of NORAD

Rumsfeld admits that Pentagon has "lost" 2.3 trillion dollars at a press release on Sept. 10, 2001.
The War On Waste, Defense Department Cannot Account For 25% Of Funds — $2.3 Trillion - CBS News

Spectrometer displays of that day. Put your headphones on, turn it up, and listen to the explosions for yourself.
YouTube - Spectrometer Reading of Bombs in Building

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And for the BBC reporter? FDNY knew the building was going to collapse, they knew it at about 2 pm and evacuated the building. At that point the fire department had almost zero fire fighting capabilities and had to withdraw. The press obviously got hold of this information and some idiot made the mistake of saying that it had already collapsed. Just a dumb mistake by a dumb reporter.

But if you dont believe this, are you saying.... the BBC IS BEHIND 9/11?!?!?

I'm not saying shit, and apparently neither is the BBC...


On February 27, 2007, the BBC's website published a response by Richard Porter in which he reactively denied the suggestion that there is something wrong with the BBC (whose "vision is to be the most creative, trusted organization in the world") announcing the third of the only three skyscraper "collapses" in world history before it happened.

1. We're not part of a conspiracy. Nobody told us what to say or do on September 11th. We didn't get told in advance that buildings were going to fall down. We didn't receive press releases or scripts in advance of events happening.

2. In the chaos and confusion of the day, I'm quite sure we said things which turned out to be untrue or inaccurate - but at the time were based on the best information we had. We did what we always did - sourced our reports, used qualifying words like "apparently" or "it's reported" or "we're hearing" and constantly tried to check and double check the information we were receiving.

An image of the website hosting the alleged BBC World footage 3. Our reporter Jane Standley was in New York on the day of the attacks, and like everyone who was there, has the events seared on her mind. I've spoken to her today and unsurprisingly, she doesn't remember minute-by-minute what she said or did - like everybody else that day she was trying to make sense of what she was seeing; what she was being told; and what was being told to her by colleagues in London who were monitoring feeds and wires services.

4. We no longer have the original tapes of our 9/11 coverage (for reasons of cock-up, not conspiracy). So if someone has got a recording of our output, I'd love to get hold of it. We do have the tapes for our sister channel News 24, but they don't help clear up the issue one way or another.

5. If we reported the building had collapsed before it had done so, it would have been an error - no more than that. As one of the comments on You Tube says today "so the guy in the studio didn't quite know what was going on? Woah, that totally proves conspiracy... "
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Honestly I couldn't care less what you believe. I spent 3 years trying to convince guys like you that the official story is a joke. It resulted in my nearly being admitted to a hospital for exhaustion. I know the truth and that's all that matters to me anymore. Silverstein, the Commission, and anyone else involved in the governments explanation of 9/11 is full of shit.

I don't quote conspiracy theories, or movies like "loose change". I stick to verifiable, mainstream media outlets. Every single link listed here is fact. Check for yourself. If you can dispute anything I have listed here I would love to hear it.

WTC 7 - Silverstein's 'Pull It' Explanation Examined
Larry Silverstein, WTC 7, and the 9/11 Demolition

hey, and the BBC is not the only ones to report that 7 had collapsed beforehand. I'll try to find it again. But I've seen it before .. I think it was ABC that made the same report prior to the collapse.
The Ultimate Con 9/11 Truth Documentary - Debunking Larry Silverstein's "Pull It" Comment Rebuttal

America's oldest fire fighting publication calls investigation of WTC "a half baked farce."
Fire Engineering - WTC "INVESTIGATION"?: A CALL TO ACTION
Fire Engineering - "Burning Questions...Need Answers": <i>FE's</i> Bill Manning Calls for Comprehensive Investigation of WTC Collapse

John O'Neill- The man who knew too much. Deputy director of the FBI and America's top anti-terror agent prior to 9/11. Quit his job in the summer of '01 publicly stating that the Bush administration was purposely blocking FBI investigations.(Died on 9/11, his first day on the job as head of security for WTC.)
WKJO, Who Killed John O'Neill?

Norman Mineta- Secretary of Transportation was in White House bunker with Cheney on 9/11, and heard him reaffirming orders to stand down. (His testimony to the 9/11 Commission was censored due to concerns for "National Security," and was not published in the report.)
How They Get Away With It

Sibel Edmonds- FBI linguist who managed to connect laundered drug money and 9/11 profits to Senate and House election campaigns. (Currently under Federal gag order.)
FBI linguist won't deny 911 drug money tied to election coffers

Robert Wright- FBI agent who was told to stop investigating Al Queda cell within the US a month prior to 9/11. (Currently under Federal gag order.)
YouTube - Robert Wright / Sibel Edmonds FBI SPECIAL AGENT ROBERT WRIGHT SUBJECTED TO FBI RETALIATION FOR TELLING THE TRUTH YouTube - The 9/11 Bush / CIA connection

Ben Fountain and Scott Forbes- Employees at WTC and witness' to several powerdowns and closures at the WTC for months prior to 9/11. (The letter Forbes wrote to 9/11 Commission was never addressed.)
YouTube - Could explosives have been planted in the WTCs? (Part One)

William Rodriguez- Janitor at WTC claims he heard explosions in the sub-basement and on upper floors following plane crash in North Tower. (Testified to 9/11 Commission in closed door session. His testimony is nowhere to be found in the Commission report.)
William Rodriguez

Richard Grove- Former employee of Silverstream. Claims executives at Silverstream, Marsh McLennan, AIG, and Kroll Associates all had prior knowledge of 9/11. (Has been threatened with his life on several occasions.)
9/11 Whistleblower Richard Andrew Grove Speaks Out on the Meria Heller Show | 911source.org

Cheney in control of NORAD on 9/11
YouTube - Alex Jones - Cheney in Control of NORAD

Rumsfeld admits that Pentagon has "lost" 2.3 trillion dollars at a press release on Sept. 10, 2001.
The War On Waste, Defense Department Cannot Account For 25% Of Funds — $2.3 Trillion - CBS News

Spectrometer displays of that day. Put your headphones on, turn it up, and listen to the explosions for yourself.
YouTube - Spectrometer Reading of Bombs in Building



I'm not saying shit, and apparently neither is the BBC...


On February 27, 2007, the BBC's website published a response by Richard Porter in which he reactively denied the suggestion that there is something wrong with the BBC (whose "vision is to be the most creative, trusted organization in the world") announcing the third of the only three skyscraper "collapses" in world history before it happened.

1. We're not part of a conspiracy. Nobody told us what to say or do on September 11th. We didn't get told in advance that buildings were going to fall down. We didn't receive press releases or scripts in advance of events happening.

2. In the chaos and confusion of the day, I'm quite sure we said things which turned out to be untrue or inaccurate - but at the time were based on the best information we had. We did what we always did - sourced our reports, used qualifying words like "apparently" or "it's reported" or "we're hearing" and constantly tried to check and double check the information we were receiving.

An image of the website hosting the alleged BBC World footage 3. Our reporter Jane Standley was in New York on the day of the attacks, and like everyone who was there, has the events seared on her mind. I've spoken to her today and unsurprisingly, she doesn't remember minute-by-minute what she said or did - like everybody else that day she was trying to make sense of what she was seeing; what she was being told; and what was being told to her by colleagues in London who were monitoring feeds and wires services.

4. We no longer have the original tapes of our 9/11 coverage (for reasons of cock-up, not conspiracy). So if someone has got a recording of our output, I'd love to get hold of it. We do have the tapes for our sister channel News 24, but they don't help clear up the issue one way or another.

5. If we reported the building had collapsed before it had done so, it would have been an error - no more than that. As one of the comments on You Tube says today "so the guy in the studio didn't quite know what was going on? Woah, that totally proves conspiracy... "
hey, and the BBC is not the only ones to report that 7 had collapsed beforehand. I'll try to find it again. But I've seen it before .. I think it was ABC that made the same report prior to the collapse.
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Old 04-11-2008, 04:28 AM
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it was cnn that also reported it like 1/2 hour early.

The biggest hoax in history and 20th century people honestly fall for this shit?

It was hillarious watching the bbc announce it fell when you can see it in the background and then all of a sudden zzzzzzrrrrriiiiippppp they lost their live video feed! I spit coffee on myslef I laughed at those dizzy bastards so hard.

I have a copy of the cnn version somewhere if ya all just have to see it but I really dont feel like going through the archives to find it.

These debunkers btw use every trick in the book btw to distract people from getting at the truth. COnflation, oxymorons, doublethink, sophism, misrepresantation, and finally outright lies and literally every dirty trick known to man to keep our minds in that little sheeple box. (well that and some are in denial or simply to stupid to knwo the difference)

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