Irrational??? Irrational????

Osama wanted the US to feel the power from a distance of a great, unseen power. 911 was mission accomplished.

Osama wanted the US military out of Saudi Arabia. After 911, Bush moved the US military out of Saudi Arabia, and into Kuwait and Iraq. Mission accomplished.

Osama wanted to see Saddam deposed as being too secular and corrupt and not of the true faith. Bush removed Saddam from power and destroyed his corrupt government. Mission accomplished.

Osama wanted the price of oil to rise to a fairer price. Mission accomplished.

If you see Bush sending troops to their death as irrational, then I can see why you would consider Osama irrational, but if you think that Bush acted rationally in sending troops to die in Afghanistan and Iraq, then how can you possibly say that Osama acted irrationally.

How can you not see Osama as accomplishing something that the great power of the Soviet Union never did: strike at the heart of the US.

How can you not see Osama as accomplishing something that the great power of the Hitler, Nazi Germany, or the Axis powers never did: strike at the heart of the US.

If you see the world as good vs evil, then you must have a hard time explaining how the US isn't part of evil as much as it is of good. The US allied itself with and aided Stalin. Was the US being good when it aided Stalin, or being evil? When the US aided Saddam against Iran, and defended Saddam at the UN from charges of war crimes, was the US being evil or good? When the US overthrew the democracy in Iran and installed the dictator the Shah, was the US being good or evil? When Bush approved of the military coup in Pakistan that overthrew the democratic government, and then rewarded Pakistan with military aid that has been used to buy aircraft which will improve Pakistan's attack on India, is the US being good or evil? When Bush rewarded Musharraf for proliferating nuclear weapons technology to North Korea, Libya, Iran, and others, is the US being good or evil?

In other words, is overthrowing democracies, defending the use of prohibited chemical weapons, rewarding terrorist sponsors with military aid, rewarding nuclear proliferation with military aid, good or evil? I would assume for someone who sees things in good v evil, that you would consider that to be evil.

SO they attacked us because we were good?


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I swear, I've read some relly funny shit.......but this one takes the cake!

Thanks for the laugh.

Osama had as much to do with 9/11 as he did to do with 2/26.

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"The left in this country preaches moral equivalence and denies the obvious good of America and evil of our enemies. They are naive and wrong."

>>>That statement is just flat out laughable. Put down your Superman comic books and grow the fuck up!

Simply put. I challenge anyone to bring forth any evidence that 911 was not motivated directly by American Foreign Policy. I also challenge anyone to show me some scrap of evidence that American Foreign Policy is not Imperialist.

Ill show mine, first.

1: In 1947 Truman rallied North-Americans to spend $400 million to intervene in the civil war in Greece, while the CIA (created by the National Security Act of 1947) intervention in this country was its first act of birth. By aiding Greece, Truman set a precedent for U.S. aid to regimes, no matter how repressive and corrupt, that request help to fight communists.

2: Following the 1959 Cuban Revolution and the local implementation in several countries of Che Guevara's foco theory, the US waged a war in South America against the "Communists subversives," leading to support in Chile of the right-wing, which would culminate with Augusto Pinochet's coup in 1973 in Chile against democratically-elected Salvador Allende. In a few years, all of South America was covered by similar military dictatorships, called juntas.

3: 1951-1954. PBSUCCESS, authorized by President Eisenhower, is the codename for the CIA first covert operation in Latin America, carried out in Guatemala. According to most historians, the CIA-sponsored military coup in 1954 was “the poison arrow that pierced the heart of Guatemala's young democracy.”[39] The purpose of the operation was to overthrow Jacobo Arbenz Guzmán, the democratically-elected President of Guatemala. The U.S. began to worry about the growth of Communism there because of policies set forth by Jacobo Arbenz. By recruiting a Guatemalan military force the CIA's operation succeeded in eliminating the democratic government and replacing it with a military junta headed by Colonel Carlos Castillo Armas.

The political and consequent social instability created in Guatemala 6 years later resulted in a very long civil war and its consequent, destructive impact upon the society, the economy, human rights and the culture of Guatemala.

4: 1953 Iranian coup d'état, the United Kingdom and the United States orchestrated the overthrow of the democratically-elected administration of Prime Minister Mohammed Mosaddeq and his cabinet from power

Ill stop at 4, put please refute these to make some grand claims of America being entitled to trapse around the world playing No hold em, foreign politics.

America's Foreign policy has to drastically change. It has begun to dominate the domestic affairs of our own people now. The Patriot Act, Micro Chipping people, and so on. If the American people are so ignorant to think these things do not matter than I hope theyll be the first ones round up and shot when a President decides to cancel elections put check points at every state border looking for dissidents.

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