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Old 09-27-2007, 07:29 AM
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Operative Word national press club. Journalists are people too and they are allowed to give their opinions outright at industry meetings like this one at the national press club. .

And I agree with everything she said. Too bad she didn't do her job and dig up these facts objectively before we got into this war.
Just so you know Katie wasn't on the job during the run up to the war. Yes all people have opinions in the correct setting like the National Press Club it is correct to give those opinions, but why do the rest of the Networks all biases to exist? Just report the news and let me decide what it means, but then would be too simple.
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Old 09-27-2007, 08:59 AM
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Oh but Stevek.... the anchors and commentators on Faux News are completely open-minded and UNBIASED about their far right values and ideals.

With PROFESSIONALS like Williams and Couric they check their political agendas at the door.

That doesn't see to happen on Fox... so you've got a lot of nerve commenting on journalistic entity when Fox has none

Anchors are supposed to be non-boased. Commentators are not. That's the difference, stupid. What you are also doing - which again is stuid - is trying to equate that 2 wrongs make a right. Well, if you can name me just one "Faux" News anchor who gives her/his opinion then let me know. I'd be interested in hearing that.
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Old 09-27-2007, 09:01 AM
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"With PROFESSIONALS like Williams and Couric they check their political agendas at the door."

That statement is laughable.......
'Nazi' is a fucking moron. Obviously the link was written because of what Couric said which is irresponsible and wrong for an anchor (not a commentator) to do. But then again, I guess her decision making skills aren't that great considering her ratings.
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Old 09-27-2007, 09:02 AM
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disingenuous alert!!!! disingenuous alert!!!! disingenuous alert!!!!

This just in, Anchors read a teleprompter written by a news staff.

When not in front of the camera doing their job they are hold on....hold on...

I know this is shocking .......

Human Beings.....Yup even T.V. people where once made of flesh & blood, hell may still be...for now.

Stevey Stevey you make a whole thread about this?
How uhhhhh...idiot box of you. As my grandma used to say.
You may be just as shocked to learn what the job definition of a news anchor is supposed to be. Anchors - if they are any good - have more of an influence than just reading the teleprompter. Ask Dan Rather. oops, maybe you shouldn't!
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Old 09-27-2007, 09:04 AM
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You seriously going to tell me that Fox is not biased? You know they are, or you wouldn't be watching them. Fox doesn't attract liberals because they give you a heavy dose of right wing bias.
Then on the same note, CNN and MSNBC doesn't attract conservatives because of their bent. Why is one right and the other wrong being you are telling me that the other networks have a liberal bias?
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Old 09-27-2007, 09:06 AM
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I would like to prove to you all just how brainwashed you all are, how demented you all are, how imbesilic you all are but this list goes on long enough to show you that the explainations for each will only exponentially grow to extremes. It is physically and mentally impossible to point out all the reasons that show how stupid you all are, so I will refrain from going on about it and just feel convinced within myself.








You don't realise how fucked over I am, mentally about how I can explain to you all, how stupid you appear. Sorry I really can't go on anymore.

Then shut the fuck up, bitch!
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Old 09-27-2007, 09:45 AM
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I would like to prove to you all just how brainwashed you all are, how demented you all are, how imbesilic you all are but this list goes on long enough to show you that the explainations for each will only exponentially grow to extremes. It is physically and mentally impossible to point out all the reasons that show how stupid you all are, so I will refrain from going on about it and just feel convinced within myself.

You don't realise how fucked over I am, mentally about how I can explain to you all, how stupid you appear. Sorry I really can't go on anymore.
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Old 09-27-2007, 11:04 AM
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I wouldn't pay to hear Katie Couric speak but, apparently, a lot of members of the Press Club would. Then again, it's always been hard for me to listen to Yale cheerleaders opine.
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Peter Wehner - 9.26.2007 - 5:25PM
At her National Press Club event yesterday, we heard this from CBS News anchor Katie Couric:


The whole culture of wearing flags on our lapel and saying “we” when referring to the United States and, even the “shock and awe” of the initial stages, it was just too jubilant and just a little uncomfortable. And I remember feeling, when I was anchoring the “Today” show, this inevitable march towards war and kind of feeling like, “Will anybody put the brakes on this?” And is this really being properly challenged by the right people? And I think, at the time, anyone who questioned the administration was considered unpatriotic and it was a very difficult position to be in.

There is a lot to unpack in these few sentences. For one thing, Couric’s aversion to using the word “we” when referring to her own country is both weird and revealing. After all, she is part of the United States, a citizen of America, and so she is part of “we.” Hers is an example of a certain journalistic sensibility that feels as if members of the media are compromising their objectivity by referring to their country as if they were a part of it. And I suppose in The World According To Katie, it would be a gross violation of journalistic ethics to hope for America to prevail in a war to depose Saddam Hussein and bring liberty to his broken land. Hence, I suppose, her discomfort with how well the initial stages of the Iraq war went.

This point is worth pausing over. After all, during his reign, Saddam Hussein routinely executed political opponents and political prisoners. Children and young people were tortured to force their parents and relatives to confess to alleged political offenses. Schoolchildren were summarily shot in public—and families of executed children were made to pay for the bullets and coffins used. Human Rights Watch concluded that the Iraqi regime committed the crime of genocide against Iraqi Kurds—and estimates are that more than 300,000 Iraqis were executed during Saddam Hussein’s reign. He was also responsible for invading two nations at a cost of more than a million lives. Imagine hoping that the United States would defeat such a regime quickly, easily, and with a minimum loss of life and damage. The audacity!

As for the “inevitable” march toward war and her “kind of feeling like, ‘Will anybody put the brakes on this?’”: First, the “march” to war was not inevitable—one person on this planet could easily have put the brakes on it. His name was Saddam Hussein. He could have stopped the war at any time, if only he had met the commitments to which he had agreed. It was Saddam Hussein who was in material breach of Security Council Resolution 1441. It was he who had amassed a record of defiance for more than a decade. But for Katie Couric, the responsibility for war rests not with the former dictator of Iraq, but with the President of the United States.

And then there is tossing out the standard talking points that those who questioned the administration were “considered unpatriotic” and “it was a very difficult position to be in.” By whom, in Couric’s imaginary history, were critics of the administration considered “unpatriotic”? This notion is a flimsy urban legend—and yet Katie claims to have been put in a “very difficult position” based on a scenario that never even occurred. What a tower of strength she is.

The virtue of such statements, I suppose, is that it rips away the pretense of objectivity—as if that was even necessary at this stage. It appears as if Katie Couric is a worthy successor to Dan Rather—and her comments, in some ways so utterly typical, also remind us why CBS’s ratings are in the toilet, and deserve to be.
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