Thread: Another former liberal speaks out

He makes some good points here, which is especially helpful for those who never were dedicated liberals.

• Liberalism encouraged selfishness. The individual is not a great goal if you want a society to have a consensus, stay together and get stuff done.
  
• Liberalism encouraged a victim mentality. The constant search for an oppressor, viewing life in this binary of equality/inequality and free/unfree suggests a paranoia by which things happen to us, not us constructing things.
  
• Liberalism couldn't make hard decisions. It was great if the question was how to hand out government money or who to politically recognize. But if you had four fire trucks, and five fires, there was no answer -- someone immediately raised an objection and debate reached an impasse.
  
• History alarmed me. From Plato to the French Revolution, to the pre-WWII years and 1968, liberalism brought instability and infighting.
  
• Inability to criticize its own values. It was taken for granted that we were the progressives, and everyone else, while equal, was just ignorant. Once something got added to the dogma, it was not possible to critique it and say maybe we should change direction.
  
• Racism. Liberal racism takes this form: any group that is wealthy and lives well is, because they are equal like us, merely lucky, and so they owe it to us. Consequently, liberals hate white middle class heterosexual males, and even hate groups perceived to be elite and wealthy like Jews or Catholics.
  
• Dogma. In liberal circles, being correct politically and socially took precedence over sound engineering solutions, which I've come to believe in. I take economics seriously, as I do mathematics, physics, electrical engineering and computer science. The universe works mathematically and consistently. Engineering is a way to understand this and make it work for us. Dogma should not supplant this, but it does among liberal circles.
  
• A bad record. I participated, for twenty years, in every liberal issue that came my way and toed the party line. After all, the news stories seemed to have facts that supported my view. While this is a topic for another much longer article, let me say this: none of the predictions came to pass, and none of the solutions worked.
  
• Finally, but most importantly: my liberal friends and I were quietly miserable. We fought oppression, lived "progressive" lifestyles, and hung out with other liberals, but we found it wasn't working for us because the liberalism itself made us neurotic, defensive and unlikely to succeed as a result.

http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/com...rals_and_im_a/

My bro Raul nails it and goes viral with it: http://www.amerika.org/2009/organiza...ralism-behind/

I can't see how liberalism could change your life so much. This guy blames it all on liberalism. I would never take advice from such a whiny guy. Do you and him live for your political standpoints? You take it this seriously?

You'd rather be "antihumanism" than a liberal? I think Liberalism like every other Political Ideology has its flaws. Its pros and cons. It favors social progress by reform and by changing laws. Which excludes any chances of a revolution. It also adovcates free competition and a self-regulating market. Which again, has its ups and downs.

...The fuck?


Liberalism is a political position, it's not a fucking way of life for fuck's sake.

Stupid people always take this shit WAY too far. whether they be conservative or liberal.

Another one says buh bye and begins choosing reality.

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