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Old 01-07-2007, 02:10 PM
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Well, are we?

Certainly most will say this is true to some degree, but how far does it extend? Deadshot made me think of this in our discussions. Tell me how far this philosophy must extend. Where does personal accountability come into the equation if at all?
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Well, are we?

Certainly most will say this is true to some degree, but how far does it extend? Deadshot made me think of this in our discussions. Tell me how far this philosophy must extend. Where does personal accountability come into the equation if at all?

Can you be a little bit clearer?
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This is a tough question. The mind and heart you bring to this has to ponder two more fundamental thoughts (for me).

What are the problems or personal difficulties our 'brother' is faced with (micro)?

Does this extend through the Constitution or collective aesthetic (religious or not) which a country or 'people' conduct themselves under (macro)?
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Can you be a little bit clearer?
I am not sure if I can. I think it means something different to different people.

I suppose I could say just how far does our responsibility to our fellow man extend? Where does this responsibility end and personal accountability begin?
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I am not sure if I can. I think it means something different to different people.

I suppose I could say just how far does our responsibility to our fellow man extend? Where does this responsibility end and personal accountability begin?
Give us an example Dom.
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Old 01-07-2007, 03:07 PM
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This is a tough question. The mind and heart you bring to this has to ponder two more fundamental thoughts (for me).

What are the problems or personal difficulties our 'brother' is faced with (micro)?

Does this extend through the Constitution or collective aesthetic (religious or not) which a country or 'people' conduct themselves under (macro)?
I think that it applies to all the above in some way. For all it is a individual question of how much they feel responsible for helping their fellow man out in a particular situation and does it matter to that individual how that person got into that situation.

Also, I think it does apply to us on a societal level, but I feel that is formed by our collective individual feelings on the issue.

I am not applying this as a religious question necessarily, as I don't think it is a religious question despite it being asked in the Bible. I am sure it is a question that has been asked in one way or another throughout the history of man.

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Give us an example Dom.
One example could be to what extent are we responsible for helping out those in need.

Another is to what extent are we responsible for others misfortune, and even if we are not responsible for the misfortune, should we be responsible for helping someone out of a situation which they caused by their actions?

For example, a person is poor because they have a bad job. The reason this person has a bad job is because they have had drug problems (which could be applied in that for some it is a result of society, which we are all responsible for) and because they dropped out of school. Just how responsible are we for helping this person out?

Perhaps maybe not the best example, but an example nonetheless. I didn't want to give an example because I feared the thread would just revolve around should we help those who are in the above situation and not deal with the broader question.

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One example could be to what extent are we responsible for helping out those in need.

Another is to what extent are we responsible for others misfortune, and even if we are not responsible for the misfortune, should we be responsible for helping someone out of a situation which they caused by their actions?

For example, a person is poor because they have a bad job. The reason this person has a bad job is because they have had drug problems (which could be applied in that for some it is a result of society, which we are all responsible for) and because they dropped out of school. Just how responsible are we for helping this person out?

Perhaps maybe not the best example, but an example nonetheless. I didn't want to give an example because I feared the thread would just revolve around should we help those who are in the above situation and not deal with the broader question.

Tricky to know how far to go to help, I see what you're saying though. I guess if you think about it as though -'would I want someone to help me now' if you were in dire straits and how relieved you'd be if someone did help you out. Not that you'd expect it, but if it were like how you'd hope to be treated....??? If it were a junkie relative asking for cash for drugs, then, no....actually I'm not sure about that.
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I think that I am my brothers keeper to some extent. For instance would I stop a friend from getting behind the wheel after he had been drinking, yes I would. If I could help someone that is going through a rough time personaly or professionaly? Yes if I could or recommend an avenue to help get things straight. Would I extend a helping hand to someone that I don't know to the extent I would a friend or aquaintance? I don't think I would go the extra mile for them but I would if asked give advice and some assistance.
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I have noticed that people who live in larger communities, you sometimes don't even know your neighbors much less care what is going on with them. I live in a town of about 2000 people and I know the people that livke all around me. If one of them goes a trip in the summer, somebody mows their yard and they return the favor for others. How can we say that we care about others and not talk or befriend their neighbors?
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