Well....isn't it about the birds AND the bees?

Even in 1942 they equated Nazism with collectivism.

The Dimensions of the War. - TIME

There goes your revisionist history argument.

More to come . . . bit by bit . . . so keep posting.

Ever watch a Gaggle of Geese ?

The classic "fascist regime" in the animal kingdom.

"Everything for the gaggle", and all others enter the area at their own risk

Is the individual gaggle the "collective" in terms of Geese ?

Not even close....case made..point proven...check and mate

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"Happamia, sanoi kettu pihlajanmarjoista kun ei niihin yltänyt" ("Sour, said the fox about rowan berries, being unable to reach them"

Modern scholars see the same thing.

Cookie Absent

I look at it this way:

There is a continuum that goes from Fascism to Collectivism, but it is NOT linear- is is a circle where both lie relatively at the same point.

Doubt that helps but it is my opinion.

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Your opinion is based on hot air. What is the continuum measuring? What is in the middle? Why is fascism opposed to collectivism in your opinion? How do they differ?

The size of the tent...it is just that simple

I can't give you an exact ratio that constitutes "the collective" (nor is that necessary to sustain the point) , but I know for sure, and most would agree, it has to extend beyond lines of nationalism.

By the way..if "The State" and "The People" (IE the collective) are now the same thing ...the political right has a LOT of rethinking to do
From taxes, to economics to the 2nd amendment

Ya'll cant have it both ways

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Yeah it hurts, you have been fucked by an Elephant !

"Happamia, sanoi kettu pihlajanmarjoista kun ei niihin yltänyt" ("Sour, said the fox about rowan berries, being unable to reach them"

Nothing, when it comes to people and politics is simple......

Or we'd be in better shape today.

Maybe all of us need to stop and think?

Well...the original question which started this thread, was a babbling idiots quest for attention, and has nothing to do with politics. It was created by DUM1 to try to save face, after his being debunked and verbally humiliated in another thread

Accidently, the lard ass tranny's plea for attention did lead to some decent exchanges between sane folks.

The contention that fascism was a "socialist" or "collectivist" agenda is frequently used by right leaning folks to distence themselves from it...the only problem is,, is does not meet the criteria by any reasonable standard

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Yeah it hurts, you have been fucked by an Elephant !

"Happamia, sanoi kettu pihlajanmarjoista kun ei niihin yltänyt" ("Sour, said the fox about rowan berries, being unable to reach them"

What is in the middle is the question, as per the Hegelian Dialectic that is the goal of the opposing sides. They just make us think we are compromising when the middle was the initial goal I think.

I currently believe that when two sides disagree in public (like Repubs and Dems) it is a facade that not only distracts the masses but both parties are in cahoots behind the curtain to keep themselves in power at all costs. I know I might have done the same thing if I was immoral and already in power.

Collectivism has benefits if the people have the choice to belong or leave at will, which is a plus for them and Fascism is not too bad if those in charge truly keep the well being of the subjects as their goal. But since humans in general make constant mistakes, there are few systems that are infallible. It is not like I have the answer yet to be sure- I just give my armchair opinion.

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