Koooks. You'd see bright lights when you come too after getting your ass knocked out also. This kind of nonsense comes from the completely uneducated backward Neanderthals. You just need to go to school

Pressing the god damn spell check button isnt an education BTW

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Cussing out low class inbreds isnt uninteligent, its honest

Good typing is not inteligent its dexiteritous.

Everything you just said is total bullshit

Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.

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I said we do have some scientific evidence stating souls may exists. but in short of someone dying and making contact with us we will never have full scientific proof.

read carefully before you pontificate.

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So the human brain is shutting down and the consciousness percieves a bunch of messed up shit. Big surprise, moron. People experience all kinds of things during a near death experience, as you'd expect them to.

It's no excuse to go running your mouth and looking the fool.

I doubt there'd be many who read both your posts who would disagree with me when I say you changed your tune under fire when you couldn't think of a decent counterargument.

I agree that that's what you said, but it was followed with this:

also, you said "we went past the clouds and flew right past gods home".

so, i was wondering where in the bible did you read "god lives in the clouds a few hundred feet above the ground. if scientists get out of earths atmosphere, god doesn't exist

your so ignorant, i am laughing at you. you make such an idiot by the choices you make

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Actually, I think you'll find that you're totally wrong. I didn't say that, someone else did.

So you should stop making a public dunce of yourself and start paying attention to what's going on around you.

I wouldn't use the "Didn't see the invisble man in the sky" argument because it's too easily shot down.

There are a thousand and one better arguments for why religious belief is indicative of idiocy.

There are mathematcial "proofs" that are just logical arguments. Scientists arrive at conclusions, not proof. At least that was what I was taught in grad school.

The topic at hand seems to be the question of mind body dualism. Is the mind separate from the body? If it is then that needs to be accounted for and would give evidence for the possible existence of something outside of the material world. Am I correct in saying that most of you would argue that the mind and body are the same thing and one is not independent of the other?

If this is the case then I am just curious about how the following is possible:

In philosophy to prove that two things are identical they must be exactly the same. For example, I can have a sheet of paper in my hand but that same piece of paper, if missing even one atom in a possible world, is no longer identical to my sheet of paper. My question is if the brain and mind is the same thing how can we mentally comprehend the two being separate? (Such as in stories of ghosts) Would these not be two different entities?

Sorry if this makes no sense. I’m rather sleepy.

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Science has not disproven the Soul either. Sorry.

The Abrahamic religions claim that the Soul, or Spirit, is housed within the human body, that when we die, that spirit leaves the pysical body and travels "up" to their heaven. Or "down" depending on how well indoctrinated that person was.
In older European religions, the spirit dwells in other planes, and is connected to the physical body by the proverbial "silver cord".
In yet other older traditions, the physical self is but a "dream" that the higher, spiritual self is having.

As a Non-Abrahamic Theist, a Celtic Reconstructionist to be precise, I see the human mind as merely a physical part of the human body, not only responsible for the upkeep and operations of our bodies, but also connected to the spiritual self through that silver cord, with the subconious acting as an intermediary, a form of "resistor or fuse" if you will.

That's an interesting viewpoint that I haven't heard before and will need to give some thought. So, just to make sure I understand you correctly, you view the mind as a part of the physical body that is somehow connected to a greater (?) spiritual self? Out of curiosity what do you believe is the function of the spiritual self?

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The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.
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