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Old 06-01-2008, 10:01 AM
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Not confusing at all.

The body can operate without the mind, and vise versa.

Keep in, ahem, "mind" that the mind and brain are two seperate human functions that merely occupy the same space.


I have read about being brain dead and the body continuing to function...artificially supported, but never a dead body with a living brain. Where did you get this fact?
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Old 06-01-2008, 10:04 AM
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Not all religions are "death cults", and not all religious people are caught in that mentality.

People like the average bible-thumping Fundie are certainly death cultists, much more worried about the here-after than just plain living. They are miserable sods who try to pass that miserable on to everyone else.

As to the validity of an afterlife? There is enough evidence to suggest the possibility. And in my personal belief structure, I see there being several "after-lifes", one for each major religion from the Christians's heaven to the Asatru Valhalla to the proverbial "Happy Hunting Grounds" to our Summerdlands, and everything in between.
To each his own. I hope you make it to Valhalla, or your choice.
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Old 06-01-2008, 10:19 AM
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...Take a look at the "bovine" species, and the widley varied forms and sizes just within that one specie....
Precisely the point...they are all still "bovine".
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Old 06-01-2008, 10:19 AM
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You know a few years back when I was suicidal I jumped off a 60 foot bridge. I did not have any fucking near death experiences I just flew threw the air and thumped in the mud.

I think either:
1. People are making that shit up (Like UFO's, big foot and such)
or
2. It is real.


Geez...I could have told you that before you jumped. Must have been quite an experience. How did you come out of it?
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Old 06-01-2008, 03:09 PM
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I'm stating that you either lack the capacity, or merely choose not, to see the inherent complexities in life.
This is stupid. I see many things, some of them complex, none of them inane and as ridiculously baseless and mundanely antiquated as your malarkey. I see far more intricate, complex, and articulated complexities that don't involve making shit up from nothing, not being able to back up ANYTHING you've said once in an argument without piling on more metaphysical butchery.

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I could care less if it is Freud or not. I could also care less if you choose to, or lack the basic capactiy to, understand and grasp concepts that are perfectly reasonable, as well as generally accepted across the entire psychological proffession and several other diciplines as well.
Oh, I "get it", in that I am not suffering to comprehend the content of what you're saying, only its basis in reality alludes me. And I don't care if you care or not about how your philosophical perspectives are an amalgamation of unknown bits and pieces of antiquated philosophers. You're just dumb, you don't know what you're talking about. And also, NO ONE IN PSYCHOLOGY WILL EVER USED THE CONCEPT OF ID OR EGO OR SUPEREGO. NONE! Don't tell me whats what, just shut up and listen, go look up your own baseless ideas, at the very least. Jesus Christ, you think other humans are using the ego/super ego dichotomy? My God you're clueless.


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And that is exactly what YOU have offered in rebuttle, perfect, unadulterated, unsubstantiated, unsupported shit.
At the very least I clued you into where ALL OF YOUR IDEAS COME FROM. Something you couldn't do for yourself. Your brain (or mind ahha) fits within my own, chump.

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Deny all you want. I will form my opinion on recognized principles and personal experience.
Whenever you're ready... meanwhile stop making your opinions on dead metaphors and bad science.
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Old 06-01-2008, 03:10 PM
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lol@ me reading this article in a science magazine about possibly proving a co-existing "other dimension"
yet heaven has to be in the clouds...
and what asshole, am I a fucking scientist? At least they're willing to try new ideas you fucking hack
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Old 06-01-2008, 06:13 PM
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I have read about being brain dead and the body continuing to function...artificially supported, but never a dead body with a living brain. Where did you get this fact?
Look at any quadrpaligict.

Reeves (superman actor) was compeltely paralyzed and required artificial means te even breathe.

Body, dead. Mind, still alive.
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Old 06-01-2008, 06:21 PM
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This is stupid. I see many things, some of them complex, none of them inane and as ridiculously baseless and mundanely antiquated as your malarkey. I see far more intricate, complex, and articulated complexities that don't involve making shit up from nothing, not being able to back up ANYTHING you've said once in an argument without piling on more metaphysical butchery.
Like I said, you're as blind as a bat. You do the same thing Creationists do, close your eyes to the plain facts to support your hypothesis.


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Oh, I "get it", in that I am not suffering to comprehend the content of what you're saying, only its basis in reality alludes me. And I don't care if you care or not about how your philosophical perspectives are an amalgamation of unknown bits and pieces of antiquated philosophers. You're just dumb, you don't know what you're talking about. And also, NO ONE IN PSYCHOLOGY WILL EVER USED THE CONCEPT OF ID OR EGO OR SUPEREGO. NONE! Don't tell me whats what, just shut up and listen, go look up your own baseless ideas, at the very least. Jesus Christ, you think other humans are using the ego/super ego dichotomy? My God you're clueless.
Feel free to source your statement of "No one in psychology...".

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At the very least I clued you into where ALL OF YOUR IDEAS COME FROM. Something you couldn't do for yourself. Your brain (or mind ahha) fits within my own, chump.
Doubtful. I've found that any Fundie, regarless of affiliation, hardly uses their brain for more than keeping their ears apart.

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Whenever you're ready... meanwhile stop making your opinions on dead metaphors and bad science.
And just who are you to demand I "stop" anything? All I see is an uneducated, uninformed person who merely denies something recognized widely as fact merely because it doesn't fit into their ideology. Rather immature, if you ask me.
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Old 06-01-2008, 06:51 PM
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I find it interesting that you guys will point out that there is more than likely other forms of life out there other than us. Yet you say God and angels are impossible..... Why can they not be some of the other forms of life....?????

As for useing a theory "the big bang" that you say ya don't believe in but use anyway to form different scientific theories is preety irresponsible.

Any scientific theory should be based at the very minimum with the scientist believeing in the basis it is being formed from.

To do otherwise is simply unprofessional and irresponsible....

As for evolution... You talk about it as a fact... you seem to want to forget that it is the "theory of evolution".

That even the scientist who put it forth called it nothing more than a theory...

Although in the theory of evolution it takes millions of years for things to evolve.... it would seem that in the last 2000 years of known history that men have been men, dogs dogs, cats are cats....

There is only different points of view and different beliefs that people hold.

I simply believe and state that I believe that we as humans and the earth and all of its different properties are set up in such a way as to not be a "coincidence".

I am not a retard....

I hold a different point of view....

I do not consider the points that you have made to be very valid or do I believe that you have done a very good job of rebutle against mine.

Your talk of he who yells loudest and is the most rude does not show intelligence.

It shows ignorance.

The same scientists who have been teaching you guys this kind of of dribble are also the ones who preach, and years ago taught about how the air would be unbreathable due to smog sometimes between the years 1985-2000.

They pulled out their charts, they called their points scientific fact....

Well here we are in 2008.... The sky is blue.... the son is shining.....

No one needs gas masks to breath "as we where all Guaranteed" would be the case.

Liberal scientists basically make their "theories" based upon by shall we say questionable basies. This can be seen by the gentlman saying that he does not believe in the big bang theory and yet uses a theory he does not believe in to form other possible theories.

Not exactly good science.

The idea of we are just here, and not wanting to realize that it is not just a matter that we are here.... it is a matter that everything we need to exist and thrive here is also here, and that things that are even garbage such as "rotten food" can be used to cure diseases".

The odds are not equal with winning the lottery, it is equal to the same person winning the lottery 100 times one right after the other.

It is not high odds, it is impossible for all of this to have happened without a form of intelligence guideing it.

Everyone does of course have the right to their point of view.

I have always liked pointing out that my beliefs have everything to gain and nothing to lose... let us say I am wrong... I die and that is it...

However, if I am right, and they are wrong and they deny God they will spend an eternity in Hell.

Since mine has everything to win and nothing to lose and vice a versa theirs has nothing to win and everything to lose.

The logical course of action is mine.

Viking

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Old 06-01-2008, 06:58 PM
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I find it interesting that you guys will point out that there is more than likely other forms of life out there other than us. Yet you say God and angels are impossible..... Why can they not be some of the other forms of life....?????

As for useing a theory "the big bang" that you say ya don't believe in but use anyway to form different scientific theories is preety irresponsible.

Any scientific theory should be based at the very minimum with the scientist believeing in the basis it is being formed from.

To do otherwise is simply unprofessional and irresponsible....

As for evolution... You talk about it as a fact... you seem to want to forget that it is the "theory of evolution".

That even the scientist who put it forth called it nothing more than a theory...

Although in the theory of evolution uit takes millions of years for things to evolve.... it would seem that in the last 2000 years of known history that men have been men, dogs dogs, cats are cats....

There is only different points of view and different beliefs that people hold.

I simply believe and state that I believe that we as humans and the earth and all of its different properties are set up in such a way as to not be a "coincidence".

I am not a retard....

I hold a different point of view....

I do not consider the points that you have made to be very valid or do I believe that you have done a very good job of rebutle against mine.

Your talk of he who yells loudest and is the most rude does not show intelligence.

It shows ignorance.

The same scientists who have been teaching you guys this kind of of dribble are also the ones who preach, and years ago taught about how the air would be unbreathable due to smog sometimes between the years 1985-2000.

They pulled out their charts, they called their points scientific fact....

Well here we are in 2008.... The sky is blue.... the son is shining.....

No one needs gas masks to breath "as we where all Guaranteed" would be the case.

Liberal scientists basically make their "theories" based upon by shall we say questionable basies. This can be seen by the gentlman saying that he does not believe in the big bang theory and yet uses a theory he does not believe in to form other possible theories.

Not exactly good science.

The idea of we are just here, and not wanting to realize that it is not just a matter that we are here.... it is a matter that everything we need to exist and thrive here is also here, and that things that are even garbage such as "rotten food" can be used to cure diseases".

The odds are not equal with winning the lottery, it is equal to the same person wi8nning the lottery 100 times one right after the other.

It is not high odss it is impossible for all of this to have happened without a form of intelligence guideing it.

Everyone does of course have the right to their point of view.

I have always liked pointing out that my beliefs have everything to gain and nothing to lose... let us say I am wrong... I die and that is it...

However, if I am right, and they are wrong and they deny God they will spend an eternity in Hell.

Since mine has everything to win and nothing to lose and vice a versa theirs has nothing to win and everything to lose.

The logical course of actionj is mine.

Viking
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