Christians Are Retards

Suburbanite · #41 (**permalink**) 05-30-2008, 03:27 AM

destroy the body whats left? its nothing. destory the heart, or puncture the larynx... dead... brain in tact... point?

NAT · #42 (**permalink**) 05-30-2008, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Suburbanite

destroy the body whats left? its nothing. destory the heart, or puncture the larynx... dead... brain in tact... point?

You made my point.

Destroy the body (at least almost to the point of survivability) the mind is left intact.

Destroy the mind (as opposed to the brain), and the body lives on.

They are two seperate items.

Rooster · #43 (**permalink**) 05-30-2008, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by wolf_22

I love studies. and I'm kewl with that.

I do find it fascinating to think we could examine souls in a scientific manner. oh course there is no way to prove it beside dying and finding out for yourself.

I personally do believe in souls and god and can look at these matters froma semi-logical basis. I would classify near death experiences as the soul leaving then reentering the body. I've never died to really test this theory out though. and when I do I doubt I'll be able to report back on it

Religion is a crutch. It is a comfort to believe that there is something awaiting you after death. It assuages the feeling that we just go to the worms. It is for the people too weak to face reality.
In a way, I envy those who do believe there is something after death, for it makes departure easier, but I'm a pragmatist.
I do not begrudge anyone their beliefs but I do think their time would be better spent living now, rather than preparing for an afterlife.

Rooster · #44 (**permalink**) 05-30-2008, 08:47 AM

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So the human brain is shutting down and the consciousness percieves a bunch of messed up shit. Big surprise, moron. People experience all kinds of things during a near death experience, as you'd expect them to.

It's no excuse to go running your mouth and looking the fool.

I doubt there'd be many who read both your posts who would disagree with me when I say you changed your tune under fire when you couldn't think of a decent counterargument.

I agree that that's what you said, but it was followed with this:

What's the difference between anesthetized and a near death experience? Have any of you experienced dreams when anesthetized? I haven't.

George O Well · #45 (**permalink**) 05-30-2008, 08:54 AM

I don't think sciences proves it, but I do think if Christ was alive today, he wouldn't be a Christian.

Rooster · #46 (**permalink**) 05-30-2008, 08:59 AM

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I don't think sciences proves it, but I do think if Christ was alive today, he wouldn't be a Christian.

Well, he never was.

George O Well · #47 (**permalink**) 05-30-2008, 09:19 AM

True, but there is an entire religion named after him.

TakuanSoho · #48 (**permalink**) 05-30-2008, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by NAT

You made my point.

Destroy the body (at least almost to the point of survivability) the mind is left intact.

Destroy the mind (as opposed to the brain), and the body lives on.

They are two seperate items.

I really would like you to expand on that. Your first example contradicts your conclusion. Your exception shows that the mind cannot live without the body.

As for the second, your exception again contradicts your conclusion. What is this artificial separation?

NAT · #49 (**permalink**) 05-30-2008, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TakuanSoho

I really would like you to expand on that. Your first example contradicts your conclusion. Your exception shows that the mind cannot live without the body.

As for the second, your exception again contradicts your conclusion. What is this artificial separation?

Not confusing at all.

The body can operate without the mind, and vise versa.

Keep in, ahem, "mind" that the mind and brain are two seperate human functions that merely occupy the same space.

NAT · #50 (**permalink**) 05-30-2008, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Rooster

Religion is a crutch. It is a comfort to believe that there is something awaiting you after death. It assuages the feeling that we just go to the worms. It is for the people too weak to face reality.
In a way, I envy those who do believe there is something after death, for it makes departure easier, but I'm a pragmatist.
I do not begrudge anyone their beliefs but I do think their time would be better spent living now, rather than preparing for an afterlife.

Not all religions are "death cults", and not all religious people are caught in that mentality.

People like the average bible-thumping Fundie are certainly death cultists, much more worried about the here-after than just plain living. They are miserable sods who try to pass that miserable on to everyone else.

As to the validity of an afterlife? There is enough evidence to suggest the possibility. And in my personal belief structure, I see there being several "after-lifes", one for each major religion from the Christians's heaven to the Asatru Valhalla to the proverbial "Happy Hunting Grounds" to our Summerdlands, and everything in between.