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Old 05-03-2008, 03:04 PM
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Default Christian misconceptions about he so-called failings of evolution

i find that evolution is something a good many christians are unable to fully grasp. i'd like to spend this thread answering any of the questions, or as your pastor called them, proofs against evolution. I'd like to lay to rest any and all failures to comprehend this rather brilliant yet obvious understanding of the world. This tread is NOT about creationism or theology, i don't care what the Bible says, so don't post it. This is purely about biology and physics.

Let me start my pointing out two of the most common misunderstanding. Some christians ask questions about the intentionality of evolution. They talk about it as if it had an intention to create life. It is without motivation, it is simple physical inertia, with no plan. They then ask, how then can you explain the intricacies of say life. Evolution does this fully by explaining the highly idiosyncratic steps required to take place before we come to any "point" or "level" in evolution. Evolution didn't mean to create life, evolution didn't have to happen this way at all, there is no necessary condition for life known to us, the list could be infinite.
the second misunderstanding come from people who seem to romanticize its complexity to a point beyond what it is. They ask questions as if the answers weren't profoundly obvious. "How can evolution account for the complexity of life? It must have a creator." This is a false wrung on a ladder to nowhere. Evolution IS that explanation of how things happen without a creator. We've seen it, its witness-able within a life time. We've recorded data on larger evolutionary processes spanning hundreds of year with written and recorded data. We have remnants of animal which we no longer see living yet distinctly resemble animals alive now.
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Old 05-03-2008, 03:06 PM
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this topic again ...
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Old 05-03-2008, 03:09 PM
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this topic hosted by me, you've never seen someone on a forum who understands evolution the way I do, this is going to be fun. oh, but please, feel free to keep posting even less stimulating one-liners of disapproval, do it till your fingers go numb, i find it so authentic and riveting, you're the forum equivalent to Mozart or Bach. Syke, bitch.
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this topic hosted by me, you've never seen someone on a forum who understands evolution the way I do, this is going to be fun. oh, but please, feel free to keep posting even less stimulating one-liners of disapproval, do it till your fingers go numb, i find it so authentic and riveting, you're the forum equivalent to Mozart or Bach. Syke, bitch.
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you've never seen someone on a forum who understands evolution the way I do
and you've never seen someone on a forum who understands evolution the way I do

Show me ONE PERSON who says the Bible supports "EVOLUTION" on ANY FORUM and I bet it was me ...

so you have an almost unique way to repeat science ... punk!

and fuck that - Syke, bitch crap!

Syke isn't even in the dictionary - fool!
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Old 05-03-2008, 04:25 PM
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Ah, Evolution, this old chestnut. It's been observed in the Galapagos Islands, in Australia, plus over the span of millions of years. It is indeed a scientific fact. Although I do have to wonder where we all came from at the start. Maybe God stuck his finger in that primordial soup and stirred it up a bit?
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Old 05-03-2008, 05:51 PM
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hmmm -- like this evolutionary development?



There are more at Google Image Result for http://www.creation-vs-evolution.us/visual-evolution/human-tails/human_tails_10.jpg
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Old 05-03-2008, 06:53 PM
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this topic hosted by me, you've never seen someone on a forum who understands evolution the way I do, this is going to be fun. oh, but please, feel free to keep posting even less stimulating one-liners of disapproval, do it till your fingers go numb, i find it so authentic and riveting, you're the forum equivalent to Mozart or Bach. Syke, bitch.
How can anyone understand "mental imagery" that exists only in the mind of the one that makes comprehension to such image? Theory in any shape, mold, or mental projection that you wish to try and establish it as fact.....just does not have the backing of physical law to declare it such as a "FACT". You may be the master of any "idea" that you wish to reason on, but this only makes you a master of unprovable ideology and science "fiction", not a master of facts. Show me the definitive "empirical" scientific evidence that declares "evolution" as a fact of nature and your mastery, even though self professed, may be a valid indicator or your intelligence. If not what you are a master of is "crap", hell Bill Clinton was as such, and he certainly was no indicator of projected intelligence, just look at who he "choose" to marry. BD
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Correlation of the Bible and Science
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Old 05-03-2008, 07:45 PM
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GEN 1:20 says -

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And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl [that] may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
SO - abundantly; from the waters came MOVING CREATURES that have LIFE ...

so - it is certain they were NOT DEAD creatures that came from the waters ...

... also the birds came from there too.
HERE IS MY QUESTION:
What took science so damn long to figure it out?
As I see it - the Liberal Left is the more PRO Science type who are surrounded with dummies who can not figure out how to hold a SIMPLE SIGN in the front row at an Obama Rally ...



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Old 05-03-2008, 07:51 PM
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proofs against evolution
You lost me there. Anyone with an intelligent point knows that proof is an uncountable noun.

Back to school please.
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