Really? Then how do you know that I am a "bushbot"? Are you just like the original A. Crowley, are you practicing in the occult and have the power of clairvoyance? Your own statements reveals the depths of your lies. BD

It is a proven fact of physical science that nothing "just happens", for every effect, there must be a cause. Again the question is asked, "What caused the existence of the cosmic egg/mass-matter that supposedly produced the big bang to get things rolling?" It cannot be answered in theory...only speculated upon, at some point one must admit to some force "not of this universe" creating something.

Have you never noticed the length that some pseudo intellectuals go to produce non provable speculations to validate their points, only on the chalk board? For example it is theorized that the universe is some 84 billion light years across from one polar extreme to the other and is constantly expanding. It is also theorized that nothing can exceed the speed of light. Yet it is theorized that the age of the universe, when this expansion began occurred some 13.7 billion years ago. How could the universe have expanded faster than anyone could observe the speed of its light? We are told in theory that according to some extrapolated number crunching, of course using the theory of relativity that indeed it is "hypothetically possible" to beach this barrier as mass can expand quicker than light can travel.....really? Now to accept their theories we must have belief that another physical barrier is capable of being breached. And they declare that it is the person of faith that simply accepts their place as being inferior to whatever created them, be it nature or deity, as not being grounded in logical conclusions. BD

Idiot.

I love that you think I'm Scott Posch. I was talking with him today about you.
We both pretty much laughed our ass off at the interweb Barney Bad ass.

See a little insight, the only coward is the one who cannot argue a given subject so they resort to dork shit intimidation techniques & usually a lot of homophobe insults.
It's interesting though not surprising that you fit that category to a T.

w00t.

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Going by your theory then, who or what created the creator?
It would seem to me that your cause/effect scenario would be stuck in a loop cycle mode in which nothing ever really began, because nothing "just happens". Therefore, your cause/effect theory must also include the "creator" itself.

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Muslims aren't dying from war....they're being murdered by members of their own cult.

God the creator is "eternal", having no beginning no ending, and everything that is, was, or will be, therefore must exist within Him. The cause and effect law of physics affects only physical reality, not spiritual. God is transcendent to this physical universe, just as described in the scriptures. Thus, clearly the Universe is a product of "creation", because physical science concludes that it (the universe) is not eternal. It had a beginning (the big bang), it is ever expanding and expending energy under the second law of thermodynamics and will reach a state of equilibrium, thus having exhausted such energy...it will have an ending. And it cannot possibly "regenerate" this energy after the fact of exhausting it. Thus the theory that it will simply "implode" and start all over again, denies the very real physical law of thermodynamics in the fact that once expended there is NO other source to draw upon to create another big bang, for indeed at some point a total state of "equilibrium" must exist. Therefore there can be no reality to the conceptual idea of "recycled" energy....there is no such animal. That would be like telling me that if I threw a baseball as hard as I could....at some point in the future it will inversely return to me with the same amount of force....do you believe that?

Cause and effect is no "scenario"...it is PHYSICAL LAW. Physical law that does not bend to theorized conceptual ideas. If the second law of thermodynamics is proven as a physical reality, and it has been done so in experiment after experiment thus establishing "empirical" proof, then the theory of the universe as a product of self gestation is only a projected theorized "hoax". For indeed, How can anything create itself...before it exists? This is always the case with pseudo intelligence it always ends in, or should I say, BEGINS with a clear paradox to all logical thought. BD

Doesn't that then put your theory of cause and effect into the realm of ridiculousness when it doesn't also apply to the "creator"?
Couldn't the same be said for nature as a whole?

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Muslims aren't dying from war....they're being murdered by members of their own cult.

"Really? Then how do you know that I am a bushbot? "


That part came easy, dumbshit.

What are you going on about?

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Muslims aren't dying from war....they're being murdered by members of their own cult.

How so? As the "creator" transcends this physical universe, as He must to have created such. By what logic are you imposing physical law upon the one that created such law in the first place? Are you declaring that simply because I choose to construct a house that I do not have the capacity to enter and exist the front door of such, at MY WILL? We are not talking about God, but the finite reality of the physical universe, I am not declaring that it just magically popped into existence and started procreating....as pseudo science does. I am declaring that it had a cause to come into existence, and what ever that cause was...we must declare it GOD. For indeed, we are so obviously inferior to Its knowledge and power. BD

So your basing your belief in the unknown....that's fine, but it's still just a faith based belief, nothing more.

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"Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah." ~ Qur'an:8:39

Muslims aren't dying from war....they're being murdered by members of their own cult.