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05-01-2008, 08:35 AM
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What are your opinions? Personally, I can't stand them- they're a perversion of Christianity and are frankly as bad as any mujahideen, I reckon.
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I agree totally. If a relative of mine were killed in Iraq and these anal orifices showed up I am afraid there would be bloodshed.
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05-01-2008, 08:40 AM
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You sent your kid to Jesus camp... and your posting name is A. Crowley- you're either the world's biggest oxymoron, or you're shitting me!
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LOL, I never realized A. Crowley may actually mean something but I suppose it fits with this asshole. Maybe A. Crowley is actually the reincarnation of old Aleister
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05-01-2008, 08:48 AM
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I agree totally. If a relative of mine were killed in Iraq and these anal orifices showed up I am afraid there would be bloodshed.
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They are fake insecure Christians, passing judgement on others. If you are truly secure in your faith you don't need to whiplash people with the bible or God. 
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05-01-2008, 09:29 AM
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While I am a pacifist by nature and haven't had a fight since 1988 (after getting beaned by a pitcher, no less!) I would happily surrender my perfect non-criminal record for an assault charge on any of those monsters. They are the absolute worst and I'm always sorry that they aren't protesting within 50 miles of where I live because I would surely be happy to confront them.
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05-01-2008, 09:34 AM
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What would you do?
Rip the Dubya '04 bumper-stickers from their cars?
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05-01-2008, 10:11 AM
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A classic example of taking a half truth and perverting it into the worst kind of "whole lie". Just how is the sin of Homosexuality overcome by committing the sin of bigotry? Perhaps a small study in the attributes of LOVE found in l Cor. chapter 13. And then backing off three paces and asking the question can any good be found by presenting sin to combat sin? Proverbs 6:27-28 and the lesson thereof apparently eludes these people as they believe they apparently can hold onto the burning ember of hot coal without getting burnt themselves.
These people, for whatever reason have taken one example of sin and let it gestate in their hearts to create an all out hatred burning in their hearts toward that action of sin, without ever once stopping to realize there is a real human person with a real human spirit living in a mask behind that sin. What, are we not ourself never had the experience of being overcome by sin? We are a liar and the truth in not be found in us, if we declare that we have committed no sin for it is declared as truth, "Know ye not, that to whom ye obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?" This is a simple question that many fail to grasp the importance thereof. If we believe that we can overcome the actions of another's sin by acting in a sinful nature ourselves to combat such....JUST WHOSE SERVANTS INDEED HAVE WE BECOME, Christ's or the convenient tool of whatever sin we used to combat another's sin?
There indeed is a great deal of difference in preaching and teaching the truth and exposing others to the knowledge of the truth, and trying to convert others away from their sinful actions by beating them to death with ones own sinful action of hatred and bigotry. Indeed, just what would be the difference of this methodology of trying to overcome sin than taking a "sword" and demanding that others convert? One sin is no greater than another. Homosexuality is no greater a sin than adultery, cheating, lying, stealing etc...., where have these morons been presented protesting the shoplifter, the lying used car salesman that makes a living playing on the gullibility of others, etc? Why must this one sin alone be pointed out and overcome at the point of our own hateful sword?
It is the Christian duty of one to simply deliver the word of truth and let it gestate in the heart of the one that hears it, for indeed that is the first step of salvation...hearing the truth, and how can one hear unless someone presents the teaching? Our judgment ends there, we have no right to pass eternal judgment upon anyone, for that right belongs to the Christ and He alone, for who indeed knows the spirit of man except the spirit of man? What, I am to be a hypocrite and declare that I can "command" anyone to cease from sin when I am only just removed from sin by the gracious blood of the Christ through no work performed on my own? My Christian duty ends where the individual responsibility of the ones that knows they are sinning, gains the knowledge of such. For indeed, we are each to work out our "OWN SALVATION" with fear and trembling least we also fall. BD
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05-01-2008, 10:17 AM
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What is it about Christians that they must proselytize their faith and propagate their religious beliefs? Are they so insecure - so uncertain of their creed - as to need to convert others to validate themselves? Surely, they must be of little faith that cannot rest assured while there are those that do not share their beliefs. Let them make their separate peace, and leave the rest of us alone.
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05-01-2008, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by A. Crowley
What would you do?
Rip the Dubya '04 bumper-stickers from their cars?
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Comparing Bush to these people is such a ridiculous comment that not only do I wish not to answer but it really reflects your own stupidity, ignorance and anger. Bother someone else from here on out. You really are too stupid to talk with. I have higher standards than what you can offer.
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05-01-2008, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by W.J. Wilczek
What is it about Christians that they must proselytize their faith and propagate their religious beliefs? Are they so insecure - so uncertain of their creed - as to need to convert others to validate themselves? Surely, they must be of little faith that cannot rest assured while there are those that do not share their beliefs. Let them make their separate peace, and leave the rest of us alone.
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Its not a question of being pompous nor condescending, or a presentation of our own insecurity. It is a matter of obeying the gospel that has offered salvation onto to us. We are under command to spread the truth of the gospel, as the religion of Christianity is of a spiritual nature and not physical. Anyone that does not present this message in the humble, truthful, respectful manner in which we ourselves were delivered such, indeed has no business in the work of evangelizing anyone. An indeed, are not Christians "allowed" to present their opinions in the arena of free speech in the same manner as anyone else or is the lst only sharpened to cut on one side? For I am sure the "secular" computer keyboard also comes equipped with an "esc or exit" function the same as all others. Feel free to engage at any time the truth becomes to hard to ignore. BD
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05-01-2008, 10:41 AM
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Evangelical Christians represent the glorification of form over substance. They profess true faith, but fall far short in its practice. They give you words - airy nothings - when deeds, not words, are needed. They are not true Christians, and they make a mockery of Christ's teachings. They are the bane of goodness, and would pray their way to heaven on credit than pay with good works. They are pious frauds. Theirs is a particularly obnoxious form of hypocrisy that pretends to scruples while abusing them without shame. I am reminded of a sermon of Laurence Sterne, who described it thus:
“There have been no sects in the christian world, however absurd, which have not endeavoured to support their opinions by arguments drawn from Scripture, misinterpreted or misapplied.
“We had a melancholy instance of this in our own country, in the last century, - when the church of Christ, as well as the government, during that period of national confusion, was torn asunder into various sects and factions; - when some men pretended to have Scripture precepts, parables, or prophecies to plead, in favor of the most impious absurdities that falsehood could advance. The same spirit which prevailed amongst the fanaticks, seems to have gone forth among these modern enthusiasts. - Faith, the distinguishing characteristic of a christian, is defined by them not as a rational assent of the understanding, to truths which are established by indisputable authority, but as a violent persuasion of mind, that they are instantaneously become the children of God - that the whole score of their sins is for ever blotted out, without the payment of one tear of repentance. - Pleasing doctrine this to the fears and passions of mankind! - promising fair to gain proselytes of the vicious and impenitent.”
- Laurence Sterne, “On Enthusiasm,” Sermons of the late Rev. Sterne, V-VII, Sermon 11 (1769)
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