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05-14-2008, 01:18 PM
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The facts of "history actual" conclude that most prominent "Philosopher" of all time was indeed Christ Jesus. Whom else can boast of consuming 1/3 the world's population by propagating such philosophy? Just what percentage of the world population did Aynd Rand garner? BD
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05-14-2008, 01:34 PM
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Dude..Please...make no mistake, I am smarter then you, more educated then you, and better read then you
With that obvious fact out of the way….I read the fountainhead in 7th grade, Atlas shrugged in high school, and I have her testimony before the committee on anti American activity and her New Yorker interview on objective ethics almost committed to memory
Apparently you are one of the simpletons who were conned by her quasi intellect and faux analysis.
Good thing you were not in Berlin CIRCA 1939, you would have been in a brown shirt no doubt
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LOL, better educated? Hardly. Unless you have a PHD, you are probably nowhere close. Better read? Doubtful. And definitely not based on your posts.
Your calling Rand's philosophy fascist is a joke. Fascism is merely a nationalistic form of collectivism and that of course is what Rand was against. That you cannot understand such a simple statement shows that "IF" you read Rand you certainly have no understanding of it.
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05-14-2008, 01:38 PM
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The facts of "history actual" conclude that most prominent "Philosopher" of all time was indeed Christ Jesus. Whom else can boast of consuming 1/3 the world's population by propagating such philosophy? Just what percentage of the world population did Aynd Rand garner? BD
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Islam has about 1/3rd as well, so what does that say about Mohammad?
Rand has few followers, however her impact has been great. In many surveys people have rated "Atlas Shrugged" as the second most influential work in their lives behind the bible.
I am by no means an objectivist, and I find Rand to be an extremely flawed individual. However, to deny the impact she has had intellectually in the US in the 20th century is ignorant, and as such she needs to be studied like Marx should be studied.
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05-14-2008, 01:47 PM
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Islam has about 1/3rd as well, so what does that say about Mohammad?
Rand has few followers, however her impact has been great. In many surveys people have rated "Atlas Shrugged" as the second most influential work in their lives behind the bible.
I am by no means an objectivist, and I find Rand to be an extremely flawed individual. However, to deny the impact she has had intellectually in the US in the 20th century is ignorant, and as such she needs to be studied like Marx should be studied.
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History actual tells the "fact" that Mohammad parroted his false ideology from the coffers of the Judeo-Christian philosophy some 700 years after the fact thereof. And about is not an actual number as Christianity engulfs 33.06% as compared to just 20.28% of Muslim representation...that is if you really want to deal in "facts". BD
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05-14-2008, 01:51 PM
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History actual tells the "fact" that Mohammad parroted his false ideology from the coffers of the Judeo-Christian philosophy some 700 years after the fact thereof. And about is not an actual number as Christianity engulfs 33.06% as compared to just 20.28% of Muslim representation...that is if you really want to deal in "facts". BD
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Fine, 20% as opposed to 33%, pretty impressive that Islam is even that close given the 700 year head start of Christianity and that Islam did not have 19th century imperialism backing it.
I only brought up Islam because I found your original post stupid. Truth is truth regardless of the number of people who don't believe it. Pointing to numbers as proof of anything intellectually is an invalid argument.
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05-14-2008, 01:52 PM
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of course beethoven is better than Mozart.
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And Paul McCartney is better than both
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05-14-2008, 01:55 PM
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Rand was a fraud, a whack job, an ego maniac and an ethicly bankrupt fascist.
Her entire quasi philosophy was based on a total misrepresentation of human nature, flawed logic, and psuedo intellect with faux terminnology and syntax, that her following of simpletions sucked down like the unsweetend kool aid it was.
Rand was a con artist who had a message that made the week minded feel smart, and the wek of heart feel stong. Hers was a pat on the shoulder to the frustrated bitter clinicly depressed of the world saying, "shhhhhhhh...only WE know the truth of hos things should be...wink" As if to tell them that their "gratification of self" was all they needed.
A great collection of faux intellect..little more
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Everyone up until this post has been calm, rational, measured and intelligent, even those who disagree with each other. You, however, come into the room, screeching, frailing and mindlessly attacking all that don't fit your mold.
Will everyone agree this poster is perhaps the less effective in this thread ever?
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05-14-2008, 01:59 PM
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She didn't, in her "paradise" there were tons of "average" people as well. The way to get in wasn't to be an "elite" but to do the best one could with what they had and to stand on one's own two feet. In short, it was an attitude, not an aptitude.
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Remember the part in Atlas Shrugged when Dagney Taggert has crashed in the world created by John Galt. One of the inhabitants is a woman who says all she wants to do is to be the best at raising her children and a collectivist society does not allow her to do that. So, you are absolutely correct in your assessment.
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05-14-2008, 02:06 PM
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Fine, 20% as opposed to 33%, pretty impressive that Islam is even that close given the 700 year head start of Christianity and that Islam did not have 19th century imperialism backing it.
I only brought up Islam because I found your original post stupid. Truth is truth regardless of the number of people who don't believe it. Pointing to numbers as proof of anything intellectually is an invalid argument.
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The truth apparently does not matter to many, as Islam can absolutely be proven to be false by the very Holy Bible that it claims to gestate from. And truth was not even being considered in the fact of who is the greatest example of any philosopher in history....or you would bend your will to the fact thereof as proven in the actual physical reality of statistical information...no? BD
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05-14-2008, 02:17 PM
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I only brought up Islam because I found your original post stupid. Truth is truth regardless of the number of people who don't believe it. Pointing to numbers as proof of anything intellectually is an invalid argument.
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Worshiping the unknowable, sounds like theism to me. And you're wrong, there is no such thing as Truth, regardless of the word existing and any number of facts or people believing it. Pointing to Truth is intellectually invalid, especially when you don't know it.
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