Aynd Rand was the greatest philospher. Ever.

ricechickie · #**251** (**permalink**) 05-21-2008, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by George O Well

>>>And if you decide to run a red light because it's fun, who's to stop you. A government??? If you are depending on mankind to do the rational thang on their own, yer making a big mistake.

In the end, mankind has done the rational thing more often than not. If it is rational to do things that benefit us, as individuals, and as society, then generally, people are rational.

smart makes a comeback · #**252** (**permalink**) 05-21-2008, 10:56 PM

This thread really must die, becuse the naive Randist pap is getting more and more silly and becomeing more and more of a reach with each post,and the randists more and more silly and desperate

Face it folks, Rand was a con artist and a quasi intellect, who appeals to the desperate, the paranoid, kooks, and those with ternminal cases of "mean world syndrome"

Randism exists NOWHERE...and with good reason

get over it

Dom1 · #**253** (**permalink**) 05-22-2008, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by George O Well

>>>That still means you are dependent on someone to "sell" you the food. That ain't living for yourself. It means you are dependent on others. That means "society".

Why wouldn't it be living for yourself? It is about making the best choices for you as long as they don't infringe on other's rights, not making decisions which effect you adversely because it is mandated.

Dom1 · #**254** (**permalink**) 05-22-2008, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by smart makes a comeback

Nazism was founded, among other things, upon ANTI collectivism.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Still wrong, fatty.

Did you make it up yourself or were you just confused?

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Originally Posted by Dom1

What advocates of altruism were gassed? Don't say communists, because they weren't advocates of altruism (see Bolsheviks).

Not only that, fascism is associated with collectivism . . . . . nice job fatty! You really did a great job there!

Not only was fascism NOT founded as an anti-collectivism, it is associated with collectivism. Look it up, I am right.

This is why I enjoy it when you keep posting on yoru losing arguments, because when you are given enough rope you eventually hang yourself.

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Originally Posted by Heckler

That is correct, Mussolini considered it a collectivist movement, but NOT a socialist movement.....

It had strong elements of NATIONALISM which, really is the core of it IMO.
Being as the fascists were rabidly anti communist, it is kind of hard to equate them with most modern leftists movements....

It's funny that both the left and right use fascist as a slam against the other.....and even funnier that it actually works.

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Originally Posted by Dom1

Collectivism:

any of several types of social organization in which the individual is seen as being subordinate to a social collectivity such as a state, a nation, a race, or a social class. Collectivism may be contrasted with individualism, in which the rights and interests of the individual are emphasized

You are impressively wrong, fatty. Fascism is a form of collectivism and you, as you usually do, got it completely reversed.

You said fascism was anti-collectivism . . . . BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now, I fully expect you to try to dig yourself out of this hole and then, inevitably, dig yourself a bigger one.

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Originally Posted by Dom1

I am not even talking about left and right, that is what fatty was trying to do and maybe tht is part of the reason she has such a screwed up argument.

I didn't use fascism as a slam against anyone, all I am stating is the fact that fascism is a form of collectivism, which goes to show that fatty doesn't know very much about the things she talks about.

Being a collectivist movement, Rand would be diametrically opposed to fascism. Again, the opposite of what fatty contends.

Turns out if you are looking for the right answer to something you just look at what the exact opposite of what fatty posts and you will find it.

smart makes a comeback · #**255** (**permalink**) 05-22-2008, 11:35 AM

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What was that Dum1 ?
I dind't catch that

Oh thats right !
I have you on ignore, so I dont see what you babble about, and because you are obsessed and cant help yourself, you keep talking to yourself..LOL

That really pisses you off huh fat ass...yeah..it does..LOL
You lose sleep over it

How do you keep a lard ass tranny busy?
Put him/her/it on ignore, then taunt and mock him/her/it
Bwhahahahah

Dom1 · #**256** (**permalink**) 05-22-2008, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by smart makes a comeback

What was that Dum1 ?
I dind't catch that

Oh thats right !
I have you on ignore, so I dont see what you babble about, and because you are obsessed and cant help yourself, you keep talking to yourself..LOL

That really pisses you off huh fat ass...yeah..it does..LOL
You lose sleep over it

How do you keep a lard ass tranny busy?
Put him/her/it on ignore, then taunt and mock him/her/it
Bwhahahahah

You admitted that you read what I post. That is not ignoring anyone. neither is following them around.

I hope everyone who views this thread looks at the post linked below to see how stupid you are.

And thanks for continually keeping it at the top of the page.

Aynd Rand was the greatest philospher. Ever.

George O Well · #**257** (**permalink**) 05-22-2008, 02:21 PM

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Randism exists NOWHERE...and with good reason

>>>Even hardcore neocon Randists like Perle and Wolfowitz have given up on Ayn Rand. Like I said: "dime store philosophy".

nathanbforrest45 · #**258** (**permalink**) 05-22-2008, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by George O Well

>>>Even hardcore neocon Randists like Perle and Wolfowitz have given up on Ayn Rand. Like I said: "dime store philosophy".

This would make sense if Rand was a neocon. However, her poltical and moral philosophy does not fit into any current mold. This is why she named her philosophy "Objectivism" It has nothing to do with Democrats or Republicans or Liberals or Neocons or Conservatives. The core of her belief is rational self interest and the self as the most important entity, not the collective.

damn, I am absolutely amazed at the number of people who claim to have read her and don't understand a word she has written.

smart makes a comeback · #**259** (**permalink**) 05-22-2008, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45

This would make sense if Rand was a neocon. However, her poltical and moral philosophy does not fit into any current mold. This is why she named her philosophy "Objectivism" It has nothing to do with Democrats or Republicans or Liberals or Neocons or Conservatives. The core of her belief is rational self interest and the self as the most important entity, not the collective.

damn, I am absolutely amazed at the number of people who claim to have read her and don't understand a word she has written.

We understand exactly what she meant Nathan, it's just that much of what she wrote brushes against your Right/Libertarian nature, and thus you , as a matter of human nature, you feel obligated to make her so called philosophy your own

The problem is, it is nothing more then Pez dispenser quasi intellect, intended to appeal to the desperation of those who feel a need to substitute a “feel good by feeling bad” mindset for a place within the mainstream culture

Randists are members of an “exclusive” club with “exclusive” insights, that no one else has the slightest interest in joining, and everyone else has figured out is a con game

nathanbforrest45 · #**260** (**permalink**) 05-22-2008, 04:19 PM

Please explain your "feel good by feeling bad" comment. I don't understand