Ah, nothing to offer as usual. Tell me, how is it you are "ignoring" me when you read what I post and direct so many posts towards me?

As to the salad, hmmmm, we did see your picture in your first screen name's profile, so I suggest you take yoru own advice.

You should take this time to read some Rand, that way you can better equip yourself to talk about her.

Thank you for your continued display of pathological obsession


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Please piss off and skip a meal and eat a salad now and then

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"Happamia, sanoi kettu pihlajanmarjoista kun ei niihin yltänyt" ("Sour, said the fox about rowan berries, being unable to reach them"

you are joking right? You cannot honestly believe Nazism and fascism were anything other than collectivist ideology. Under both the State, the government, the country, was the most important element. The individual only had value in his relationship to what he could provide the state. If you want to completely change the concept of fascism from what it actually was to some way to attack capitalism I don't know what to say.

Fascism was what it was and it sure as hell wasn't capitalistic and individualistic and Rand would never have embraced any of the concepts of fascism.

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Nazism was founded, among other things, upon ANTI collectivism.
Communists, socialists and advocates of altrusim were gassed in concentration camps.
I'm not saying rand would agree with that process, but she surely advocated a right wing extremaist (fascist) agenda

Naziism was also founded on fanatical patroitism, nationalsim, xenophobia, religous perochialism, imaginary foreign threats, militarism and demonization of the opposition(Usually accused of being leftists and socialists)

Sound familier ?
(GOP post 1980)

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"Happamia, sanoi kettu pihlajanmarjoista kun ei niihin yltänyt" ("Sour, said the fox about rowan berries, being unable to reach them"

What advocates of altruism were gassed? Don't say communists, because they weren't advocates of altruism (see Bolsheviks).

Not only that, fascism is associated with collectivism . . . . . nice job fatty! You really did a great job there!

Not only was fascism NOT founded as an anti-collectivism, it is associated with collectivism. Look it up, I am right.

This is why I enjoy it when you keep posting on yoru losing arguments, because when you are given enough rope you eventually hang yourself.

That is correct, Mussolini considered it a collectivist movement, but NOT a socialist movement.....

It had strong elements of NATIONALISM which, really is the core of it IMO.
Being as the fascists were rabidly anti communist, it is kind of hard to equate them with most modern leftists movements....

It's funny that both the left and right use fascist as a slam against the other.....and even funnier that it actually works.

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Collectivism:

any of several types of social organization in which the individual is seen as being subordinate to a social collectivity such as a state, a nation, a race, or a social class. Collectivism may be contrasted with individualism, in which the rights and interests of the individual are emphasized

You are impressively wrong, fatty. Fascism is a form of collectivism and you, as you usually do, got it completely reversed.

You said fascism was anti-collectivism . . . . BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now, I fully expect you to try to dig yourself out of this hole and then, inevitably, dig yourself a bigger one.

I am not even talking about left and right, that is what fatty was trying to do and maybe tht is part of the reason she has such a screwed up argument.

I didn't use fascism as a slam against anyone, all I am stating is the fact that fascism is a form of collectivism, which goes to show that fatty doesn't know very much about the things she talks about.

Being a collectivist movement, Rand would be diametrically opposed to fascism. Again, the opposite of what fatty contends.

Turns out if you are looking for the right answer to something you just look at what the exact opposite of what fatty posts and you will find it.

It seems that either collectivism OR individualism taken to extremes becomes problematic....

The enlightened self interest model is as much a utopian dream at this point as the communist model...

both require a state of human development that hasn't been reached.

Humans are not entirely rational, just take a look around this place!

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Many German companies have had to apologize for their complicity with the Nazis......good capitalist entities one and all.....

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