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Old 09-04-2006, 02:06 PM
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If sin was just an illusion why would it require Christ's death?
The FIRST sin was supposedly ADAM eating the fruit of Knowledge that his EGO told him would make him like GOD.

When he BELIEVED the lie, he gave it the power of his will.
Christs death was the atonement, or the undoing of the power(belief) invested in the lie.

The death was not the message.
The rebith FROM death was the message.
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The FIRST sin was supposedly ADAM eating the fruit of Knowledge that his EGO told him would make him like GOD.

When he BELIEVED the lie, he gave it the power of his will.
Christs death was the atonement, or the undoing of the power(belief) invested in the lie.

The death was not the message.
The rebith FROM death was the message.
Well I must admit I’ve never heard that one before.
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Old 09-14-2006, 03:31 AM
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Before you can defend Jesus Christ, you have to know him. You obviously still don't.
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Old 09-14-2006, 07:42 AM
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The FIRST sin was supposedly ADAM eating the fruit of Knowledge that his EGO told him would make him like GOD.

When he BELIEVED the lie, he gave it the power of his will.
Christs death was the atonement, or the undoing of the power(belief) invested in the lie.

The death was not the message.
The rebith FROM death was the message.
No the first sin was EVE listening to the serpent and eating the apple. The second sin was Eve getting Adam to eat the apple. Adam eating the Apple was the third sin.
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Old 09-14-2006, 10:04 PM
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The FIRST sin was supposedly ADAM eating the fruit of Knowledge that his EGO told him would make him like GOD.

When he BELIEVED the lie, he gave it the power of his will.
Christs death was the atonement, or the undoing of the power(belief) invested in the lie.

The death was not the message.
The rebith FROM death was the message.
It wasn't Adam's "EGO" that told him to eat of the fruit of knowledge; it was Satan. You know, the same Satan that tried to get Jesus Christ to resort to the power of God in the desert? Jesus didn't allow himself to give in to the temptation, but Adam did. Neither one was driven or held back because of EGO though; it was because of strength or the lack of in the face of evil.
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Old 09-15-2006, 01:27 AM
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It wasn't Adam's "EGO" that told him to eat of the fruit of knowledge; it was Satan. You know, the same Satan that tried to get Jesus Christ to resort to the power of God in the desert? Jesus didn't allow himself to give in to the temptation, but Adam did. Neither one was driven or held back because of EGO though; it was because of strength or the lack of in the face of evil.
No, it was a serpent.

BTW, I respect your views Kix but it doesn't mean they're the only one or the only right one. If spirituality and religion was that easy we would all believe the same thing.

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Old 09-15-2006, 01:31 AM
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Before you can defend Jesus Christ, you have to know him. You obviously still don't.
who are you to determine that?

Maybe that's not Jesus talking to you either.
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Old 09-15-2006, 05:16 PM
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No, it was a serpent.
I stand corrected. It was a serpent, doing the bidding of Satan. Better?

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BTW, I respect your views Kix but it doesn't mean they're the only one or the only right one.
I realize that my views are not the only views, that's obviously why forums such as this exist. But, can you prove my views are not the only right views?

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If spirituality and religion was that easy we would all believe the same thing.
Faith in God is that easy, but mankind has free will and that's what complicates it.
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Old 09-15-2006, 05:26 PM
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who are you to determine that?
One who has known Jesus Christ for nearly 30 years and whose eyes are open to the lies of those who misrepresent Him according to the Bible. That's who
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You have the freedom to think what you want. But I not only have the freedom, but an obligation to expose any and all who misrepresent Jesus Christ according to the Bible.
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IF God is REAL, HE can perform Miracles.
IF GOD is truthfull, so can we:-)

We cannot do these things "IF" we are uncertain:-(

(come on now:-), what is the next step in the chain of logic?)

Certainty is OWNED by GOD:-) ( and he shares:-)

GOD doesn't want your fear, HE only wants your LOVE.

we only FEAR the UNKNOWN

The GOD of the UNKNOWN is ABRAXAS.

Go back to school..... If you pray for GOD to save YOU, you will be praying to more gods than you can count.

YOU must (save/love) HIM, then you will see with vision.

I know this may seem hard to comprehend:-(

IF you FEAR GOD your GOD is ABAXAS:-(

I've done the studies, ...but if you don't want to take my word for it, you are as free as me, to have at it.:-)

http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q...GODS&FORM=MSNH
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