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Old 08-28-2006, 12:59 PM
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I was curious on a different thread you impled people leaning left was religiosphobic.
I think that was Lookagain and not me. Please for the love of Pete do not mistake the two of us. I do not share his views.
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Old 08-28-2006, 02:36 PM
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I do believe religious affiliation does not have any bearing on your inner moral core.
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Most Christians I know talk mostly about securing their place in heaven. The muslims I work with are peaceful but do not talk about their religion publicly but do pray and practice throughout even their work day.
What was the purpose/intention of this these statements?

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I think people are so individual how their faith effects them and how they interpret what they believe their holy books to say they are all different.
People do vary in their views, but persons who truely belong to a shared religion will share the same critical points of that religion. Subtle nuances of views may not necessarily change their religious identification, as you suggest.
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Don't ya'll like helping research. C'mon now I know everyone here has an opinion.
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Old 08-28-2006, 05:51 PM
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Christianity has had its own amount of troubles caused mainly by people who claim to be Christian, but all together if someone who says they are Christian and acts like it then they are agreeable people, but you have the flip side, the materialistic pretend "Christians". I also think that Christians should focus more on helping the world instead of focusing on condeming those who are not Christian.
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I think that was Lookagain and not me. Please for the love of Pete do not mistake the two of us. I do not share his views.
Sorry if I confused you. i am glad you do not share his views. I will review the thread.
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Old 08-28-2006, 06:36 PM
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What do ya'll think when someone tells you they're a Christian?
I'll just answer this question.

This seems to happen a lot. People have been in conversation with me and have randomly (in my opinion) brought up the fact that they are Christians. A guy introduced himself to me last year and the first thing he said to me is "I want you to know that I am a Christian." I have no idea why he would tell me that. Is it because he thinks that because he says this he is automatically better than someone who does not proclaim it to people they meet? Does it somehow make him better than someone else? Is he more Christian because he tells me?

To me, it certainly does not mean that he is more moral or trustworthy than anyone else I know. I am Catholic, but I don't feel compelled to go around telling people for no apparant reason (I consider this an exception because religion is specifically being discussed). Not because I am ashamed, but more so because I don't see what relevance it has. Religion is a personal thing and I really do not care if someone practices the same religion as me or not. The only time that people would know that I am Catholic is if they see me in church or on Ash Wednesday, although some "Christians" have actually thought I just had dirt on my forehead.

I suppose it is not might not be that big of a deal, but it seems like people who tell you this somehow think that they have some moral authority whereas others do not. I am sure that not all people think this way, but unless religion comes up in the conversation I don't see why people tell you their religious beliefs.
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What was the purpose/intention of this these statements?



People do vary in their views, but persons who truely belong to a shared religion will share the same critical points of that religion. Subtle nuances of views may not necessarily change their religious identification, as you suggest.

I think if you were able to see the innermost soul of people (their core moral values) you could take an equal cross section of all religions and include non believers and a close percentage of each group would be moral and truthseeking with many shades of gray with the other end of the spectrum being people who seem to be inately drawn to evil .

I think Christians have such a wide variance of beliefs that I do not see them sharing identification. The largest congregation in our city is a born again Christian light with the message being Pray and you might get the new house, that hot girlfriend or even a trip to heaven. (The pastor while having an affair with the babysitter(who was underage when it began felt God had answered his prayers when his wife was killed in a car accident.) They have a billboard that says the Pope is the anti christ. These religions do not seem to have the same core values. The Morman church views all non Mormans as not Christian and breeds constantly "to get to higher levels of heaven" I could keep giving examples but all the different churches in my city do not seem to have the same core values with "little nuances"

Oh this is off topic but I finished Samuel Johnsons biography by W. Jackson Bate. The wisdom and kinship you feel with Johnson as you read this is powerful. This may be the best biography I have ever read.(I noticed your quote)
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I'll just answer this question.

This seems to happen a lot. People have been in conversation with me and have randomly (in my opinion) brought up the fact that they are Christians. A guy introduced himself to me last year and the first thing he said to me is "I want you to know that I am a Christian." I have no idea why he would tell me that. Is it because he thinks that because he says this he is automatically better than someone who does not proclaim it to people they meet? Does it somehow make him better than someone else? Is he more Christian because he tells me?

To me, it certainly does not mean that he is more moral or trustworthy than anyone else I know. I am Catholic, but I don't feel compelled to go around telling people for no apparant reason (I consider this an exception because religion is specifically being discussed). Not because I am ashamed, but more so because I don't see what relevance it has. Religion is a personal thing and I really do not care if someone practices the same religion as me or not. The only time that people would know that I am Catholic is if they see me in church or on Ash Wednesday, although some "Christians" have actually thought I just had dirt on my forehead.

I suppose it is not might not be that big of a deal, but it seems like people who tell you this somehow think that they have some moral authority whereas others do not. I am sure that not all people think this way, but unless religion comes up in the conversation I don't see why people tell you their religious beliefs.

Exactly! Well spoken!
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Old 08-28-2006, 08:09 PM
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Christ I understand.

It's his followers that that drive me up the wall:-)

Hell for that matter, I think the Catholic Church is the HARLOT, (the prostitute of the faith:-(

"peple what have you done, locked him in a golden cxage, made him bend to your religion, HIM reserected from the grave"

"He is the God of nothing if thats all that you can see.
"he is the GOD of everything if he's inside you and me"
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Heaven is not a place in time.
God is not "TOO POWERFULL" to come down and be a lowley human, and reach out to his creation to bestow a holy spirit that can guide each of us to the HOLY INSTANT of now.
God is UNLIMITED
Time and limits are a creation of the ego.
God is POWER through PRINCIPAL.
If your will is aligned with GODS WILL, there is nothing in all the universes that can stand against you. How could there be.
If on the other hand you believe in sin, then you condenm your brother as yourself.

What you TEACH, you will LEARN. not the other way around.

"It's not against flesh and blood that you struggle, but Powers and Principalities" CHRIST

In time, there is no way to KNOW or have KNOWLEDGE of the holy instant, for it occurs outside of time

Time is the domaian and creation of the ego.

God knows nothing of time, only eternity.

The message of CHRIST is not in his crucifixtion, But rather in HIS resurection.

Christ defeated DEATH, not only for himself but for anyone who should believe in HIM, should be JOINT HEIRS.

" I would that ye all be sons of GOD" Jesus Christ

THAT is what the MIRACLE is for.
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I think that was Lookagain and not me. Please for the love of Pete do not mistake the two of us. I do not share his views.

Are you it was post no. 10 on the homophobia thread where you did say this in response to Lookagain. It made you look as though your views are in line with him.
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