When we speak of the separation of church and state what is the state we are speaking of? According to the founding fathers it is not the state in which rest the power but rather the People. "We the People" is a watch word of the Constitution. So, just how did it become separation between religion and the "people"? Or is the idea that we cannot display our belief in a creator in public being pushed in order to create a State Religion, in which all of our wants and needs are not taken care of by God but by Washington?

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>>>Why do you feel you HAVE to display your belief in a creator (which might not be the same as my belief in a creator) in a public place? Not enough wall space at home?

Btw, the people of New Orleans will tell you that their wants and needs were not taken care of by EITHER God or Washington. Same with Dust Bowl Oklahoma.

Hi nathan,

Who or what says that you cannot display your belief in a creator in public???

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Oh Please, that is about the most hairsplitting question of the millenium Storm.

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OK nathan, well give me an example where you have recently had your freedom of religion denied or infringed upon? I ask this, nathan, because I see many claim this, but no one has ever really provided me insight as to what they mean when they say that they can no longer worship/believe in public, etc.

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A personal belief in a God, Which-ever one you choose, is the most personal thing a individual has. It governs nearly everything you do ( or should). You can not totally remove your religion from your decisions so you will always get to display your beliefs through your actions( unlike the current trend of acting how you would like then forcing symbols of a religion in someones face). Me knowing your religion will not effect how I precieve you, but in many cases it does for some people. I should be given the chance to be jugde by my character and my actions, not anothers preconcieved notions of who they think I am based on my religion. It's this simple little fact that makes it almost nessasary to have a sort of 'don't ask, don't tell ' system of dealing with religion. If your free to constantly publicly show your religion then you are open to being critisized for it. And some would feel presure to also openly show thier religion and may not want the critique.

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OK, off the wall question. Who here is currently at work, not on a lunch or break?

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Why does it matter if its not your belief in a creator. How does my belief in a creator challange yours? If an argument in favor of gay marriage can be made that this no way infringes on straight marriages then the same argument can be made regarding putting up Christmas decorations on public squares. How does that directly affect you?

Hitler began his attack on culture by outlawing public prayer and any displays of religious symbols in public. In his case he was more honest in that it wasn't to avoid hurting the feelings of non believers, it was to insure the honor and respect went to the State. When a group of Protestant ministers went to him to protest he had them branded as enemies of the State.

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Me.................

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All Churches want to be left entirely along by the government, no taxes, no over sight, no restriction. Yet they often meddle in politics, tell their congregation who to vote for, march in support of, or against, political ideology, demand protection from the same government they insist leave them alone.

Can you say HYPOCRISY?

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