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03-14-2008, 06:01 PM
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saved, of course.
thanks for the support, every reply in this thread will help kill one agnostic
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Saved..............from what?
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03-14-2008, 06:08 PM
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Mankind has grown beyond the need for "God". Nature can be explained in Scientific terms. Nietzsche's point when he said "God is Dead". Is just that and it was MAN that killed him.
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"I hope our wisdom will grow with our power, and teach us, that the less we use our power the greater it will be." Thomas Jefferson
"The conservative movement has been hijacked and turned into a globalist, interventionist, open borders ideology, which is not the conservative movement I grew up with." Pat Buchanan
"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government"
Thomas Jefferson
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03-14-2008, 06:13 PM
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Saved..............from what?
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That's the question I've asked myself every time I've been foolish enough to be drawn into a purely "Religious" discussion...
I could be wrong. But I've yet to find anyone of "Faith" that could allow themselves to say the same...
They can't... It'd destroy their "Faith"... It'd mean they'd have to think for themselves in this World...Instead of "living" for the "Promised Land"...
Am I wrong in this view? 
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03-14-2008, 06:28 PM
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Mankind has grown beyond the need for "God". Nature can be explained in Scientific terms. Nietzsche's point when he said "God is Dead". Is just that and it was MAN that killed him.
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I think it is important not to replace your "truth" with another "truth" and except there is no truth. Science is no more authentic than religion, both are merely tools to cope with our reality, science's functions may be broader and superior, but they are still subject to the human context.
and they are saved from the fear of death, lethargy, fear, chsirtians do experience those things less.
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03-14-2008, 06:56 PM
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I think it is important not to replace your "truth" with another "truth" and except there is no truth. Science is no more authentic than religion, both are merely tools to cope with our reality, science's functions may be broader and superior, but they are still subject to the human context.
and they are saved from the fear of death, lethargy, fear, chsirtians do experience those things less.
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Burb,,,you'd have a better chance at expressing your views against "Christians", if you'd take the time to learn how to spell it.
Now, shall we discuss your stance in Life as an Avowed Atheist?  What do you have to offer in exchange, for Life Everlasting...
Just a question, Burb. I'm an Agnostic, please keep that in mind.
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03-14-2008, 07:18 PM
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dont be anal retentive about typos, thats the gayest shit ive ever read on this forum... oh u mis-typed a word what a fool! Shut the fuck up.
and what the fuck are you talking about Life as an Avowed Atheist? and what kind of retard capitalizes first letters in words that arent proper nouns? thats not a typo, you're just a fucking retard, not an agnostic.
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03-14-2008, 07:18 PM
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I think it is important not to replace your "truth" with another "truth" and except there is no truth. Science is no more authentic than religion, both are merely tools to cope with our reality, science's functions may be broader and superior, but they are still subject to the human context.
and they are saved from the fear of death, lethargy, fear, chsirtians do experience those things less.
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Suburbanite,
They can be repeated with the same results. Validated. Look Religion in my opinion, is man made for mans own purpose, that of controlling people.
When man became old and saw himself becoming nothing he had to cope with his own death. In doing so, he created the afterlife. To differentiate between good and bad, he created heaven and hell. Theres a lot of good to derive out of the Bible, Taoism, Existentialism. I don't put all my eggs in one baskit, whether its religion, investing, voting.
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03-14-2008, 07:20 PM
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That's the question I've asked myself every time I've been foolish enough to be drawn into a purely "Religious" discussion...
I could be wrong. But I've yet to find anyone of "Faith" that could allow themselves to say the same...
They can't... It'd destroy their "Faith"... It'd mean they'd have to think for themselves in this World...Instead of "living" for the "Promised Land"...
Am I wrong in this view? 
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Sounds like your right on to me. 
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"I hope our wisdom will grow with our power, and teach us, that the less we use our power the greater it will be." Thomas Jefferson
"The conservative movement has been hijacked and turned into a globalist, interventionist, open borders ideology, which is not the conservative movement I grew up with." Pat Buchanan
"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government"
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03-14-2008, 07:26 PM
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Suburbanite,
They can be repeated with the same results. Validated. Look Religion in my opinion, is man made for mans own purpose, that of controlling people.
When man became old and saw himself becoming nothing he had to cope with his own death. In doing so, he created the afterlife. To differentiate between good and bad, he created heaven and hell. Theres a lot of good to derive out of the Bible, Taoism, Existentialism. I don't put all my eggs in one baskit, whether its religion, investing, voting.
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do you pray? do you think what would jesus do? do you think when you do something wrong it is a sin? if not, you're an atheist. If so, you're a theist.
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03-14-2008, 07:27 PM
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No truth? There is truth, at different levels.
I'll stick with calling myself Agnotic, thanks anyway.
From the responses, looks like I'm in better company that way....

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