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Old 03-14-2008, 12:00 AM
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Yeah.

You should be3 able to make good use of it in one of your pinball brain exhibitions.
You followed me here to say that? Is that really the best you could do?

Probably so.
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Old 03-14-2008, 12:29 AM
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"Agnostics are pussies"

Don't know why, but I think that is the funniest thing I have read on here in the last few days. Great line, I might steal it if the situation ever arises when I can use it.
I agree that's why I hat to do my little post. It was cracking me up.
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Old 03-14-2008, 12:48 AM
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If an Agnostic is a Pussy, what is a Christian?
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Old 03-14-2008, 04:06 AM
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saved, of course.

thanks for the support, every reply in this thread will help kill one agnostic
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Old 03-14-2008, 01:51 PM
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I agree that the prefix "a" means without. But it doesn't mean opposite, it doesn't mean "not", and it doesn't mean "anti". It means without. Without theism. Other words that use a? Amoral. To be amoral is not the same as to be immoral. Whats the difference? Its consideration. For an act to be immoral, it means it is within the context of morality, and on the "negative" side of the spectrum. That is to say, being immoral is ackowledging a particular relationship with morality as a system. Amorality, however, is a lack of consideration towards the context of morality. For example, a rock lodges lose and falls from a mountain hitting someone on the head and killing them. That rock's actions were not immoral, the rock is not subject to morality, the dilemma is not a moral one..... the rock is amoral.
When a person goes through his day to day life he is presented with dilemmas as well. When these dilemmas arise one can be a theist about it... that is to say, to react with a Christian or other theological perspective when interpreting the said dilemma. Or, one can be an atheist. To be an atheist doesn't mean one solves the dilemma in the context of "not theist", or the context of "antitheist". One solves it in an atheistic context... which specifically means one thing, that this person is not considering a theistic context to put his aforementioned dilemma into.
An atheist does not REJECT or DENOUNCE theism, an Atheist does not consider it as a viable interpretation to any event. To be an atheist one does not have to claim "god does not exist" one merely has to assert that they don't think in terms of theism... they dont think about sin, or nirvana, or god, or prayer. It mentions nothing specific about the nature of what the DO think, only what they aren't thinking.
I fear you misinterpreted me, which is my own fault, and you thought i was saying that someone who is unexposed to theism is the definition of an atheist, which I didn't mean to insinuate.
Upon clarification, we agree....still dont get the Agnostics are pussies concept...but that is a sidebar
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Old 03-14-2008, 02:23 PM
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because they're just people who are afraid to sy they r atheists... 99% of them come from religious communities and just cant admit they've given up their faith
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Old 03-14-2008, 02:32 PM
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because they're just people who are afraid to sy they r atheists... 99% of them come from religious communities and just cant admit they've given up their faith
No, just not willing to commit to something else that can't be proven.

Glad you got it all figured out. Now go take your place with all the other faithful....
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Old 03-14-2008, 02:48 PM
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No, just not willing to commit to something else that can't be proven.

Glad you got it all figured out. Now go take your place with all the other faithful....
you should bother to read the post I made explaining exactly why what you think is an agnostic is really the actual definition of atheist... you're the victim of a world with religion, and your fear of ignoring it entirely causes you tension because they brainwashed you growing up. I already can tell you grew up religious if you're an agnostic.... right? and why not call yourself an atheist? Because its been turned into a bad word, its been made out to seem close-minded, too radicle. The those assertions are ridiculous! Atheism is the most open minded someone can be without making a choice. Atheism is a natural state of being.
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Old 03-14-2008, 02:58 PM
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you should bother to read the post I made explaining exactly why what you think is an agnostic is really the actual definition of atheist... you're the victim of a world with religion, and your fear of ignoring it entirely causes you tension because they brainwashed you growing up. I already can tell you grew up religious if you're an agnostic.... right? and why not call yourself an atheist? Because its been turned into a bad word, its been made out to seem close-minded, too radicle. The those assertions are ridiculous! Atheism is the most open minded someone can be without making a choice. Atheism is a natural state of being.
Why not call myself an atheist? Because it can't be proven or disproven whether there is a god/gods or not.

Actually, when I was younger I did call myself an atheist. And yes I believe no god is more probable than some god or gods. However, over a period of decades I realized I'm actually agnostic, not atheist.

That being said - what a fucking conceited asshole you are. Get over yourself pal.
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Old 03-14-2008, 03:07 PM
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bro, take it easy, you've been duped. Please, read my definition of atheist, I posted it in this thread, dont reply again until youve read it. Now... I assert that your definition of agnosticism is the same as mine of atheism and that your crude categorization of feelings towards religion is inferior to my categorization, which I feel, and hope to patiently explain to you, is a more accurate way of describing atheism that includes the most liberal to most stern "types" of atheists including agnostics.
Sorry if calling you a pussy as offensive, but I stand by my other points.
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