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View Poll Results: Would you get a chip implanted in you for Identifcation?
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08-14-2006, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ladyofmts
Ok Spitty...in essenance, the white flag. I'm sorry this is such a hot topic for you.
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Fair enough, please no more smiling Rudy links. You can change your photo now.
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08-14-2006, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Still Dizzy
Hi Spit,
Not at all. I really don't care one way or another. Because of this I don't take a position. You however are going NUTS about this. Got to be a reason. 
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Reason, It is Un-American and I just don't want a chip in me (do I not have the right to say no?). I understand my cell-phone can be tracked, fine I can choose to throw it in the water. But a chip in MY BODY (not the Govt.'s body), I don't want it. Since you take no stand, your silence will be construed as permission to chip you. I know good veteranarian that could could chip you after he does my friend's blue healer. That is the beauty of America, just becuase you want to be docile and malleable, doesn't mean I have to be. What I am up to is my business, I will tell you that I am a law-abiding citizen and tax payer.
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08-14-2006, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Dom1
I am sure that there are people who have them, in the case of kidnap and things such as that.
For those with nothing to hide. Would you be willing to post on here for us your medical records, credit rating, how much money you make a year, how much you are in debt, how much you have in the bank, what purchases you have made recently, your criminal record, what you are reading; and of course we want to know about any hair transplants, purchases of viagra, birth control pills, botox injections, etc.
It is not about hiding anything. It is about other people not knowing everything about you. It would be a system that could easily be corrupted. But I wouldn't really care as long as I didn't have to do it.
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Dom, Dom, Dom,you are a "top man." On point again. This Post is why folks. Every business will have this info available, even insurance. So if great gandma had diabetes, you may not get coverage.
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08-14-2006, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ladyofmts
Roman and Rob: I can honestly see how you think chipping fringes on your privacy. But, in the military life, we are already in essence, chipped. Once a member enters the service and marries, the wife is given a indentification card, our kids are given identification cards at the age of 10. We are completely logged into the gov't system. Our driver's licenses, taxes, ect...are all other links to the gov't access to us.
BUT, here's the funny part, my friend's husband worked for Cheney, highest top security clearance, but her husband went to Iraq. While I was at her house one day she got a call from the White House "Where's your husband we need to talk to him about yada, yada, yada", dang she gave them an earful about how they should know when and where he was with his high top security clearance. The gov't will be overburden and will not be able to keep up with it, thus I really don't think it will ever happen to the general population.
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But, in the military life, we are already in essence, chipped.
That was your choice, Military is still volunteer. I would choose not to and your husband is fighting so I can say "no chip Dr. Doolittle!"
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08-14-2006, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Areyouforreal
The problem comes when it is not a choice but a requirement. The government then decides that a paper ID is no longer suffiicient and you have to use the chip for everything.
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I think we are getting though to you pal, I have been very impressed with some of you most recent posts. I will forgive you on 911 becuase it is a tough one, but I can tell you are not one demensional, Pilgrim.
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08-14-2006, 02:31 PM
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Spitty...now I'm confused..do or don't I remove my avatar??
If it's a volunteer chipping, I'm okay with it, if it's mandated, I DO have a probelm with it.
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Originally Posted by Spitty
But, in the military life, we are already in essence, chipped.
That was your choice, Military is still volunteer. I would choose not to and your husband is fighting so I can say "no chip Dr. Doolittle!"
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08-14-2006, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ladyofmts
Spitty...now I'm confused..do or don't I remove my avatar??
If it's a volunteer chipping, I'm okay with it, if it's mandated, I DO have a probelm with it.
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Ok, this is your first mention of you having a problem with it being mandated. If you truly take that stand then you are a true American. Remove it 
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08-14-2006, 02:49 PM
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Yes, I do have a problem with chipping being mandated vs. volunteer, so we're in agreement and the avatar is removed.
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Originally Posted by Spitty
Ok, this is your first mention of you having a problem with it being mandated. If you truly take that stand then you are a true American. Remove it 
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08-14-2006, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ladyofmts
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Don't forget your location, ei ei ooooo!
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08-14-2006, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Spitty
I think we are getting though to you pal, I have been very impressed with some of you most recent posts. I will forgive you on 911 becuase it is a tough one, but I can tell you are not one demensional, Pilgrim.
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Thank you Spitty. If you haven't noticed I am not your average "neocon" I prefer to be called a progressive consrevative. While I stick to my values and stand by the Bible I also like to learn new thing and I am not afraid of change.
I do believe that our government is leading us to globalism and this chip is the start of that. Just to let you all know when the RealID act is implimented all national ID cards will be embedded with the chip. Id it already starting withr passports.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060811/...onic_passports
I also believe in global warming, i just do not think we are the total cause of it.
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