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08-10-2006, 11:09 AM
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Yes, I remember the days of playing the game Risk as a child.
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What ever happened to the good ole day when you conquered a country and it became yours  |
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08-10-2006, 11:24 AM
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The Romans controlled many lands, but they did not control the Arabian peninsula ever. There was no economic gain and the Romans were all about economic gain. The Persian Empire was controlled by the Parthians, who the Romans were never able to conquer. A part of the old Persian Empire (Turkey and modern day Israel/Lebanon/Syria were Persian) was taken by the Romans, it just wasn't the Persians when it was taken.
I don't see how the expansion of Islam was an extension of the Persian Empire. The Arabs actually conquered the Parthians (new Persians), and the Persians never extended as far as the Muslim empires as a whole did. It was not Persians who were dominate, it was the Arabs, whose only connection to the Persians is that they now control what was once Persia.
Not that any of it really matters. It is futile to go back in history very far to find justification for actions. We are never going to find a culture that is 100% innocent of anything.
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08-10-2006, 11:47 AM
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That is exactly what I was talking about.
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09-05-2006, 01:56 PM
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I'm sure they (Muslims) asked politely to share the land, to work and sweat together, side by side, to share scripture passages (since the books are soooo close), maybe even to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony. I'm sure this was the case because there are no bloody borders associated with Islam.
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09-05-2006, 02:22 PM
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Yes, I remember the days of playing the game Risk as a child.
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Wasn't Risk what Kramer and Newman were playing on the subway when Cosmo insulted the Ukraine and a passenger who overheard him knocked the Risk board all over the subway's car floor?  |
09-05-2006, 04:12 PM
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Now you can play as an adult!
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09-05-2006, 04:56 PM
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Thanks for the link
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09-06-2006, 12:16 AM
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Because the world of Islam was only retaking the land of their ancestors, that the Romans had conquered and the Christian world inherited. It was not an aggression toward Chistianity, except in the sense that the Christian world took it for granted that what was once Roman territory should now belong to the new central rule in Europe.
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actually that land was not owned by Arabs but by Canaanites, Armenians, Hebrews, Greeks, and Persians. and by the time of the conquest of the cities of the Christian east they were Eastern Orthodox and Syriac Churches, not Roman Catholic. so in all actuality the Arabs were invading the Christian East.
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09-06-2006, 12:19 AM
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The lands that Politicon mention were extentions of the Roman Empire, that did become extentions of the Holy Roman Church(the New Rome). These lands were once under one ruler and that includes the Arabian Peninsula. That was the Persian Empire. My point is that there was no reason for a crusade based on the re-aquesition of land by Islam(the new Persian Empire), simply because it was held under Christian dominion. And no I did not imply that the Roman Empire was Christianising the world.
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in all truth and fariness to the Persian Empire, they never conquered the Arabian Peninsula and were conquered by the Islamic Caliphs from Mecca.
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Wasn't Risk what Kramer and Newman were playing on the subway when Cosmo insulted the Ukraine and a passenger who overheard him knocked the Risk board all over the subway's car floor? |
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