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Old 01-18-2008, 06:01 PM
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In absence of an objective truth why is it a poor choice?
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Old 01-18-2008, 06:05 PM
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In absence of an objective truth why is it a poor choice?
If you were asking me, I don't believe it is a poor choice. (I'm agnostic myself)

I would actually prefer to believe in something, it would be nice, I think, to have the security of "knowing".... but there is no logical proof....so I'm stuck with it!!!
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If you were asking me, I don't believe it is a poor choice. (I'm agnostic myself)

I would actually prefer to believe in something, it would be nice, I think, to have the security of "knowing".... but there is no logical proof....so I'm stuck with it!!!
There's proof. Its just all testimony. if you can have "faith" and trust the validity of someone else's experience then you can believe. however, the next problem we run into is who do we believe? A lot of testimony for religion is contradictory with other religions.
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Old 01-18-2008, 06:28 PM
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without any sort of review by someone with credible credentials.

BULLSHIT
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without any sort of review by someone with credible credentials.

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Talk is cheap. Prove it.
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Old 01-18-2008, 06:34 PM
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There's proof. Its just all testimony. if you can have "faith" and trust the validity of someone else's experience then you can believe. however, the next problem we run into is who do we believe? A lot of testimony for religion is contradictory with other religions.
Okay, you are correct. There is no objective proof, only subjective proof....

Exactly.....I'm not inclined to take anyone's "Proof" in these matters, because there are so many places where human knowledge is insufficient....

So, I stick with wait and see....
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Old 01-18-2008, 09:03 PM
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AFTERLIFE- DOES IT EXIST? THE OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE

COMMENTARY: WELCOME 2008!

The battle for the mind!

As I stated last week knowledge of the paranormal and acceptance of the afterlife evidence is growing exponentially – in a great way!
When I first came into the afterlife debate some twenty years ago, the closed (Victor left, with David Thompson) minded anti-afterlife skeptics were highly vocal, highly aggressive and were dominating the scene.
But NOT to-day! Paranormal television, radio and press time have increased dramatically and these aggressive skeptics are getting fewer and fewer all the time. A couple of the closed minded skeptics are even jumping on the band-waggon claiming to accept the paranormal – ‘just some of it!’ and ‘if you can’t beat them, join them.’ The intellectual skeptics are also keeping a low profile because they know, if they take on the afterlife evidence, they will have to deal with me directly and the debate will be public and international.
I am waiting and have been waiting for EIGHT YEARS for any informed intellectual academic to take on the afterlife evidence. It would be a matter of putting up or shutting up. Then there are the open minded skeptics who are investigating the afterlife and paranormal evidence and are coming over to our side in droves. Of course, then there are the cowardly skeptical dummies – who show they are about to explode from being too frustrated in not being able to rebut the hardcore, objective, repeatable afterlife evidence. So 2008 looks extremely good!

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Your standard for determining truth is an appeal to popularity and a bandwagon approach? This isn't an election this is an effort to determine real world truths.

If you got something to argue then paraphrase it. Linking to a bunch of articles that are pages long without stating a damn thing is the signs of an amateur at work. "Can you please CITE IT FROM YOUR SOURCE, AND QUOTE IT?!? Or perhaps paraphrase in a logical manner what the evidence is that supports your argument. You don't just give someone a source, with no explanation at all, and expect them to do your work for you. You make an argument, and if ASKED for a source for your claims, if your source is lengthy or contains various materials you quote the relevant passage that validates your claim, and provide the link in case one wishes to look into the validity of the source, or read the passage in its context."

If there is in fact that kind of scientific evidence, I am ALL EARS and will immediately convert to the religion of said scripture, for when the world knows of this said religion will be known as a science, and could be verified anywhere all over the world as easily as the chemical properties of table salt.

Do you have anything to debate or do you let other people think for you? I'll be waiting to debate with you when you develop an opinion of your own.

"There are 3 ways to argue for religion:

1. Argue that religion is true, which there is no evidence for.
2. Argue that religion is useful, that it has utility of some kind in the natural world. Which does in no way advance the truth claim of said religion.
3. And to attack atheism, which is not a thing at all."

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Old 01-19-2008, 01:35 AM
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Old 01-19-2008, 03:48 PM
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There are millions of PLAUSIBLE ideas. The flying spaghetti monster is plausible. That does not mean it is a truth.

Do you know what proving a negative is? Your ignorance knows no bounds.
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