OH BTW, I have said repeatedly that we do not think we are praying to God when we ask for Mary's intercession. Can you understand that concept. If you go to your mother because you know you have not been good and your father will be very angry with you and ask her to talk to your father then I think we can all understand that we are not asking our father to not spank us. We are asking our mother to intercede in our behalf even though we clearly do not deserve it.

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I am totally bewildered by your reply. I'm on your side with the religion causing wars. You obviously did not contemplate the meaning I was implying.
It is for each Man to find the path, not for a religion to impose its teaching.

no matter what the trinity says.

AND UH.......WHO THE FUCKER YOU TO ARGUE WITH WHAT THE TRINITY SAYS

where the fuck ya think you're cumming from :-I

If you don't KNOW where you come from.......(MEANING GOD).......you WILL wind up going nowhere.

HONEST INJUN

The differnces in interpritation of this myth have led to those wars.

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Ironic. Crux, I believe, is Latin for cross: a device used in executions and torment. Whatever...

It's interesting that the person who takes this side of the argument never wishes to explain all of the killing that has resulted from those who lived without God, such as Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Mao, et al. The antitheist is quick to tear into all religious belief by laying this blame at the feet of all who claim to be religious, without any distinction what so ever. By equal measure should all antitheists be lumped together as well, and blamed for all the violence perpetuated by those claiming to be non-religious? Of course not.

the biblical "cross" was an allegorical symbolism alluding to the group of stars in the same quadrant of the early evening sky as the dying sun during the winter solsltice. it was during this time of year that the ancients noticed that the sun (also referred to by them as the "sun of god") would "die" on this "cross", and for 3 days would appear "dead" and immobile at its lowest point in the horizon, before eventually "resurrecting" (rising) higher in the sky to mark the return of the sun, and a march towards the new spring season.

actually, hitler was influenced by christianity. that's the danger of organized religion, and why it has killed more humans throughout recorded history than any other "purpose" (for lack of a better word).

hitler wrote: "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.." (taken from Mein Kampf)

the following site shows hitler's own words revealling his feelings for "god", christianity and faith. they were taken from speeches made by hitler from 1922 to 1939.
Hitler's Christianity

hitler was not only a confessed christian, but his intolerance and atrocities were consistent with biblical scripture and he acted as other christians of the past and present.
Hitler compared to God/Jesus/Christians

hitler's private notes show how the bible influenced him.
Hitler's Monumental Bible as History

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crux (krks, krks) KEY

NOUN:
pl. crux·es or cru·ces (krsz) KEY
The basic, central, or critical point or feature: the crux of the matter; the crux of an argument.
A puzzling or apparently insoluble problem.

Stupid ass.....

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Read further sparky.

I think Martin Luther would have to disagree with this retard statement... LOL. Wow started this dumb thread?

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The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.

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Well to begin with Martin Luthor was just as bad as the others in Inquisitions as he gave orders to lay waste to the German Peasants that rebelled in the name of God against the German Government and Luthors Theology.

Second, You should study Ben Franklin a little closer. He was a British traitor that sat out the war and was indeed a supporter of Christianity as long as it was a benefit to him in certain matters. Ben later denounced the divinity of Christ on his deathbed after HIS work was completed. In other words, Ben stood for what He thought would bring him more reward with his genius.