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Old 01-15-2008, 01:37 AM
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Yeah.......those Hot Bitches Are Hot...........but Boy They Can Sure Burn Ya Out Fast :-i
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Old 01-15-2008, 03:27 AM
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For in Him dwells the fullness of the GODHEAD bodily (Colossians 2:9). That is to say Jesus has everything that God has in the flesh. God was simply incarnated in the flesh as Christ Jesus. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was God (could not get much clearer) John 1:1. The Word became flesh and dwelt among us (The Word was God, the Word became flesh) as the "only begotten" of the Father. John 1:14. Jesus (the Word) existed at the beginning of time and did the actual creating of all things Col.1:16. Jesus said, Before Abraham was, "I AM" John 8:58.....he that has seen ME has seen the Father John 14:9.

The Holy Spirit was also present and active at the time of creation (Genesis 1:2). The role of the Spirit at different times was that of creating order and presenting truth (Gen. 1:2,2, John 14-16. Some want to attritbute chaos to the Holy Spirit in the religious teachings (1Cor. 14: 33-40), Paul proceeded to chastise them for, bringing confusion by speaking in different tongues(languages)all at the same time, allowing the women to speak in the services, as he told them that it was a commandment of the Lord that everything be done decently and in order. Has any ever been to a tongue speaking service....as they ignore the commandment of God to forbid the Women to speak and remain silent and not speak in tongues(without an interpreter) thus becoming as sounding symbol just making noise without anyone understanding what was said. If no one understands, how do they know that God is being phrased and not cursed? If Paul chastised them in the 1st century for acting as such, should it be acceptable today?

The truth is as presented in scriptures the gifts of tongues was a gift to allow someone that did not have the formal training to go into a different lands and speak the language to the natives of that land to present the truth of God, where it could be understood. Now some want to present this as a badge of honor and proof of having a gift of the Spirit, yet it seems strange that the only gift they seem to get is the one that is the easiest to fake, or convenience yourself that you have some strange power. Where is the raising of people from the dead, the real gift of healing, making the blind see and the lame walk? If one of these Gifts exist today, they must all exist. If one is demonstrated they all must be demonstrated, if not, why not? Those that had the real gifts of the spirits performed the signs and wonders in public in front of witnesses even enemies of the church, and they did not require anyone to show an act of faith to do so. The Spirit gave the gifts to those He wanted to have them....man has no lot nor part in the matter as determined in Acts Chapter 8, these gifts were presented to others by the laying on of the hands of the apostles, and this is the only way to gain any supernatural gift of the spirit. There is no Biblical example of anyone having these gifts without first having the laying on of the apostles hands. The only time the "baptism of the Holy Spirit" was presented to man was first to bring power to the Apostles in Acts 2 and again in Acts 10 to prove that the Gentiles were also to be added to the church. On both occasions it was performed at the will of the Spirit, not the will of man. The Holy Spirit is an individual entity of the Godhead, and is always presented as a "HE" not an "IT" as something that can be possessed. What we can possess is the Gift of the Spirit(Acts 2:38) in an individual measure of TRUTH, the commissioned duty of the Spirit was in fact to bring Truth. John 14: 16-31, 15:13. If one is fully versed in scriptures as they study and comprehend the Word of God, that same Word which was delivered by inspiration of God in the form of the Holy Spirit, JUST WHAT SPIRIT THEN DWELLS INSIDE MAN IN HIS COGNATION TO REASON RIGHT FROM WRONG IF IT IS NOT THE SPIRIT OF GOD AS THE CHRISTIAN LETS THE SCRIPTURES DIRECT THEIR LIVES? If any wants to be baptized in the Holy Spirit of God today, they first had best immerse themselves in the scriptures.....FOR THAT IS WHERE HE(THE HOLY SPIRIT) RESIDES, as HE is the one that has written them. ARE NOT THE SCRIPTURES PRESENTED AS BREATHING AND LIVING?
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Old 01-15-2008, 11:01 AM
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You Are Fixated On The Holy Spirit Being A He

But You Are Wrong And An Areyouforreal Style Bible Babbler Of Babylonian Proportion
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Jan that is oversimplified and bordering on clueless.
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SCIENTIFIC PROOF FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD: THE ZEPRO FORMULA - The Godscience Manifesto


Darwin's theory of evolution claims that the first living cell was accidentally created from just the right, random combination of ingredients over millions of years, but modern scientists from microbiologists to chemists are beginning to realize--and easily prove through the laws of mathematical probability--that the odds against this theory are so astronomical that it's impossible. Because of these calculations even a growing number of evolutionists are being forced to admit that because the simplest living cell is so incredibly complicated, the time it would take to be formed through purely random forces of nature would take billions and billions of years longer than the age of the entire universe!
But the origins of life aren't the only mysterious phenomena in the universe. In 1973, an astrophysicist and cosmologist by the name of Brandon Carter developed a theory called the Anthropic Principle, which states that the physical constants in the universe have been formed in the only way possible for the creation of life. Another scientist, Patrick Glynn, puts it this way: "...the Anthropic Principle says that the seemingly arbitrary and unrelated constants in physics have one strange thing in common--these are precisely the values you need if you want to have a universe capable of producing life."

From many other recent scientific discoveries about the Cosmic Energy Web, this evidence can be defined as a progression of phenomena, each one of which is a building block for the creation of life.


PHENOMENON #1 CREATION OF THE COSMIC ENERGY WEB: PHYSICAL MANIFESTATIONS

Scientists' Big Bang theory states that the universe was created about fifteen to twenty billion years ago from a giant explosion in the Cosmic Energy Web. Regardless of whether this theory is correct, the fact remains that the universe itself contains many physical relationships that have remained constant.
Only recently, however, are scientists beginning to discover the strange coincidence that all these physical constants are exactly what they have to be in order for all life to exist. In other words, the slightest deviation in any of these constants would prevent the existence of life anywhere in the universe.

Here are only some of these very bizarre coincidences, which have recently been discussed by many scientists:


Particle mass ratios. All the electrons and protons in the universe have an exact mass ratio--a proton is 1836 times more massive than an electron. If this ratio were slightly bigger or smaller, molecules could not form and life would be impossible.
Constant mass. If the total mass of the universe were slightly larger, too much deuterium would cause all stars to burn so fast that life wouldn't develop, and if this total mass were less, no helium would exist and stars couldn't produce the elements necessary for life.
Star distance. If the distance between stars in the universe were slightly less, the gravitational pull of stars would be so great that planetary orbits would be upset, creating extreme temperature changes that would destroy life. If this distance were greater than it is, the heavy fragments thrown out by exploding stars would be so thinly dispersed that no planets could ever be formed.
Key elements. The three elements beryllium, carbon and oxygen have exact energy levels in their atomic nucleuses. Beryllium is so unstable that it slows down the fusion rate of stars. If it were just a bit more stable, these stars would explode and many of the elements necessary for life wouldn't be formed. If beryllium were even more unstable than it is now, star fusion would be slowed down to the point where element production beyond beryllium wouldn't occur at all.
Carbon. The energy level of the element carbon's nucleus has an exact relationship to both helium and beryllium. If this ratio changed even slightly up or down, there wouldn't be enough carbon in the universe for life to exist.
Oxygen has exactly the right energy level in its nucleus to allow it to be produced from carbon in just the amount necessary for the existence of life on earth. If this energy level were greater or smaller, all carbon would be prevented from turning into oxygen, and life would not be possible.
These last three coincidences were so startling to scientist Fred Hoyle that he made this comment: "A superintellect has monkeyed with physics--as well as with chemistry and biology."
Remember, these are only some of the examples in this group; there are many more.

QUESTION: What are the odds that each one of the physical constants in Phenomenon #1 was created by sheer chance in exactly the right way to serve as building blocks for life itself?

ANSWER: > billion: 1 AGAINST (= "greater than a billion to 1 AGAINST")*


PHENOMENON #2
THE COSMIC ENERGY WEB: UNSEEN FORCES
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