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Old 01-06-2008, 04:14 PM
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Your diverting away from the topic of thread. You said nowhere in the bible does it praise intelligence. You have been shown several...


You have been proven wrong, and refuse to admit it.

Apparently you did not read the bible, or very well for that matter.
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satv365 Your diverting away from the topic of thread. You said nowhere in the bible does it praise intelligence. You have been shown several...


You have been proven wrong, and refuse to admit it.

Apparently you did not read the bible, or very well for that matter.

Nope,
Not even close (But nice try)
I have read it, and I know what it says and what it doesn’t say. I know its self contradictions and it’s claims that have been proven to be myth by modern science, physics and history, and I know that nearly all of it was written centuries after the events it claims to witness. Most importantly, I understand the intent behind literature that intentionally presents itself in a way that can neither be proven or disproven, and the way such a thing can control the simple weak minded

Demanding fidelity to dogma is not praising "intelligence", and blind baseless "faith" is not enlightenment, is just the opposite

Not only have I proven my point, I will take it farther

Not only does the bible not praise human intelligence, nowhere in the bible is normal humen curiosity, objective thought, geometric reasoning, and a need for evidence to support a conclusion either encouraged, or praised. In fact, it is said to be the path to damnation.

Why would God want us to be stupid, and why do so many of those who believe in God, grant the request ?
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Old 01-06-2008, 06:21 PM
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I can see the Bad Rev is mine .

REV

A lot of people do not realize it but God is the creator of both good and evil . Thats right God tells us that he creates some people as vessels of dishonor for destruction . And some of us he knew before the world was formed and we are his beloved Children and headed for glory.

Why did God do this people ask?

Because he wanted intelligent children , not spoiled coddled children who did not understand the difference between light and dark. How can you know hunger if you've never been hungry ? How can you understand how wonderful happiness is , if you've never been sad? How can you understand love if you have never seen hate? This is all about teaching Gods chosen and loved children , it is all about giving us a education.

Guess what by what you have said in this thread , there is a 99% chance you are one of those vessels of dishonor made for destruction.

That is right destruction . The concept of hell is a pagan myth .

God veils the eyes of the unrighteous so that they may look at the scriptures and still not understand . But you are the worst kind there bad Rev , instead of being sad that you cannot understand scriptures , you would mock God . Yep I am pretty sure there is a 99% chance you are a vessel fit for destruction .

But the good news is hell and eternal punishment is a invention of men .

Gods not going to punish you. Well at least no more than the horror your soul will feel at standing before your mighty God and found lacking . God will not burn you in fire for eternity. He will burn you up, all gone and scripture says your name will be remembered no more.

Now if you were just having a bad day and brought your mood to the wrong place , let me know we can talk . I would be glad to talk to you about the love of God and why even most people like you can have a second chance .

If not and you persist , hey its on !
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Nope,
Not even close (But nice try)
I have read it, and I know what it says and what it doesn’t say. I know its self contradictions and it’s claims that have been proven to be myth by modern science, physics and history, and I know that nearly all of it was written centuries after the events it claims to witness. Most importantly, I understand the intent behind literature that intentionally presents itself in a way that can neither be proven or disproven, and the way such a thing can control the simple weak minded

Demanding fidelity to dogma is not praising "intelligence", and blind baseless "faith" is not enlightenment, is just the opposite

Not only have I proven my point, I will take it farther

Not only does the bible not praise human intelligence, nowhere in the bible is normal humen curiosity, objective thought, geometric reasoning, and a need for evidence to support a conclusion either encouraged, or praised. In fact, it is said to be the path to damnation.

Why would God want us to be stupid, and why do so many of those who believe in God, grant the request ?


Show me a bible Verse or STFU.

I imagine like a Muslim or anyone here, you would take out a single verse from a whole chapter. But let us just see what you come up with.
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Show me a bible Verse or STFU.

I imagine like a Muslim or anyone here, you would take out a single verse from a whole chapter. But let us just see what you come up with.
Wow, Ignorance AND racism, all in one post !

Tell me , is that 'Things all Libertarians believe in" too ?
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Here are just a few that demand we be ignorant



1) The Genesis 1 creation account conflicts with the order of events that are known to science. Genesis 1:1 The earth is created before light and stars, birds and whales before reptiles and insects, and flowering plants before any animals. From science, we know that the true order of events was just the opposite.

2) “And God said, Let there be light” (Genesis 1:3) and “. . .And the evening and the morning were the first day” (Genesis 1 :5), versus “And God said, ‘Let there be light in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night....’ “And God made two lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also… And the evening and morning were the fourth day” (Genesis 1 :14-19). These violates two major facts. Light cannot exist without a sun, and secondly, how can morning be distinguished from evening unless there is a sun and moon? Christians try to claim that god is the light he is referring to yet, considering the context it is quite obvious that the light god is speaking of is the light emitted by the sun. Just another feeble attempt at trying to rationalize such a MAJOR blunder.

3) God spends one-sixth of his entire creative effort (the second day) working on a solid firmament (Genesis 1:6-8). This strange structure, which God calls heaven, is intended to separate the higher waters from the lower waters. This firmament, if it existed, would have been quite an obstacle to our space program.

4) Plants are made on the third day (Genesis 1:11) before there was a sun to drive their photosynthetic processes (Genesis 1:14-19).

5) “And God said, ‘Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind… ‘And the evening and the morning were the third day” (Genesis 1:11-13), versus “And God said, ‘Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life… And God created - great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly… And the evening and the morning were the fifth day” (Genesis 1:20-23). Genesis says that life existed first on the land as plants and later the seas teemed with living creatures. Geological science can prove that the sea teemed with animals and vegetable life long before vegetation and life appeared on land.

6) “And God said, ‘Let the water bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven” (Genesis 1:20). Birds did not emerge from water.

7) "And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, the beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. And God made…every thing that creepth upon the earth after his kind…" (Genesis 1:24-25). Science contends that reptiles were created long before mammals, not simultaneously. While reptiles existed in the Carboniferous Age, mammals did not appear until the close of the Reptilian Age.

8) “So God created man in his own image,...male and female created he them” (Genesis 1:27), and “the evening and the morning were the sixth day” (Genesis 1:31). If Adam was created on the 6th day, approximately 6,000 years ago (Bishop Usher’s calculations), then nobody lived before 4,000 B.C. Prehistoric men would be fictitious. By tracing the genealogy of Jesus back 77 generations to Adam, the third chapter of Luke also supports belief in a very young earth. If each man had lived approximately 100 years, then the world would be no more than 9,684 (7,700 + 1984) years old. If each of Jesus’ ancestors had lived to be 1,000 years old (an age not even reached by Methuselah), the earth would still be only 78,984 (77,000 + 1984) years old, according to creationists.

9) “And to every beast of the earth, and every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so” (Genesis 1:30). Carnivorous beasts and fowl do not eat green herbs, nor were all animals originally herbivores. Simply consider tapeworms, vampire bats, mosquitoes, barracudas, tigers, etc.

10) In Genesis 1, the entire creation takes 6 days (Genesis 1:31), at the end of which the earth and its living things are pretty much as they are today. But we know from modern science that the universe (including the earth and life on earth) evolved slowly over billions of years.

11) In Genesis 2:7 humans are created instantaneously from dust and breath, whereas they actually evolved over millions of years from simpler life forms. Science can in fact trace back human evolution CONCLUSIVELY 3 .2 million years.

12) God makes the animals (Genesis 2:18) and parades them before Adam to see if any would strike his fancy. But none seem to have what it takes to please him. After making the animals, God has Adam name them all. The naming of several million species must have kept Adam busy for a while, why Adam would still have to be living for we haven’t even discovered nor named all the species. Also consider the idea of every living creature being brought to the Middle East, that would have killed many animals due to climatic changes.

13) God curses the serpent, making him crawl on his belly and eat dust (Genesis 3:14). One wonders how he got around before -- by hopping on his tail, perhaps? But snakes don’t eat dust, do they?

14) “There were giants in the earth in those days.” Genesis 6:4 But there is no archaeological evidence for the existence of these giants. Also there is a reference to the “Nephilim” being on the earth. Which is a term used for half angel, half human. Why is there no archaeological evidence for the existence of the Nephilim either?

15) Noah is told to make an ark that is 450 feet long (Genesis 6:14-15). The largest wooden ships ever built were just over 300 feet, and they required diagonal iron strapping for support. Even so, they leaked so badly that they had to be pumped constantly. Are we to believe that Noah, with no shipbuilding knowledge and no shipbuilding tradition to rely upon, was able to construct a wooden ship that was longer than any that has been built since?

16) Whether by twos or by sevens, Noah takes male and female representatives from each species of “every thing that creepeth upon the earth” (Genesis 7:8). Now this must have taken some time, along with expert knowledge of taxonomy, genetics, biogeography, and anatomy. How did Noah manage to collect the endemic species from the New World, Australia, Polynesia, and other remote regions entirely unknown to him? How, once he found them, did he transport them back to his Near Eastern home? How could he tell the male and female beetles (there are more than 500,000 species) apart? How did he know how to care for these new and unfamiliar animals? How did he find the space on the ark? How did he manage to find and care for the hundreds of thousands of parasitic species or the hundreds of thousands of plant species? (Plants are ignored in the Genesis account, but the animals wouldn’t last long if the plants died in the flood.) No, wait, don’t tell me, a miracle happened, millions of them.

17) All of the animals boarded the ark “in the selfsame day” (Genesis 7:13-14). Since there were several million species involved, they must have boarded at a rate of at least 100 per second. How did poor Noah and his family make sure that the correct number of each species entered through the door and then get them all settled into their proper living quarters so efficiently? I wish the airline companies could do as well!
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18) The flood covered the highest mountain tops (Mount Everest?) with fifteen cubits to spare (Genesis 7:20). Where did all the water come from? Where did it all go? Why is there no evidence of such a massive flood in the geological record?

19) When the animals left the ark (Genesis 8:19), what would they have eaten? There would have been no plants after the ground had been submerged for nearly a year. What would the carnivores have eaten? Whatever prey they ate would have gone extinct. And how did the New World primates or the Australian marsupials find there way back after the flood subsided?

20) Noah kills the “clean beasts” and burns their dead bodies for God (Genesis 8:20). According to Genesis 7:8 this would have caused the extinction of all “clean” animals since only two of each were taken onto the ark. So why is it that we still have “clean” animals?

21) God is filled with remorse for having drowned his creatures in the flood. He even puts the rainbow in the sky so that whenever the animals see it they will remember God’s promise not to do it again (Genesis 9:13). But rainbows are caused by the nature of light, the refractive index of water, and the shape of raindrops. There were rainbows billions of years before humans existed.

22) “The whole earth was of one language” (Genesis 11:1). But this could not be true, since by this time (around 2400 BCE) there were already many languages, each unintelligible to the others.

23) (Genesis. 11:4) According to the Tower of Babel story, the many human languages were created instantaneously by God (Genesis 11:9) But actually the various languages evolved gradually over long periods of time.

24) (Genesis 14:14) Abram goes into pursuit looking for his captive relative in the city of Dan. The problem here is that the city of Dan did not exist until over 300 years after Moses died. How is it that Abram could enter the city of Dan, when the city did not even exist?

25) Jacob displays his (and God’s) knowledge of biology by having goats copulate while looking at streaked rods. The result is streaked baby goats (Genesis 30:37). The author of Genesis (God?) believed that genetic characteristics of the offspring are determined by what the parents see at the moment of conception. This is a laughable belief. Ask any animal husbandrist.

26) Camels don’t divide the hoof (Leviticus 11:4). This statement is completely moronic for every TEENAGER knows what a “camel toe” and how it used to describe a specific split.

27) The bible says that hares and conies are unclean because they “chew the cud” but do not part the hoof (Leviticus 11:5-6). But hares and coneys are not ruminants and they do not “chew the cud.”

28) Bats are birds to the biblical God (Leviticus 11:13-19 & Deuteronomy 14:11-18).

29) Some birds have four feet (Leviticus 11:20-21).

30) If there is a God, there is one thing we know for sure about him: He really likes insects (particularly beetles). There are more species of insects, by far, than all other species of life on earth. As JBS Haldane said, “he has an inordinate fondness for beetles.” Yet insects are said to have four legs in Leviticus 11:22-23.

31) Unicorns have never existed, yet they are said to in Deuteronomy 33:17.

32) Fiery serpents have NEVER existed yet Numbers 21:6 claims they do and TO THIS DAY STILL inhabit certain cities.
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Your quoting biblical creationism as it's relation to God's disdain for intelligence and knowledge.

You have not proven that God wants us to be stupid.

Also, if you knew anything about most Christians is that most of us do not take a literal approach to the book of Genesis.


How is being critical of Islam, Racist? Muslims are not, in fact a Race, idiot. I guess my disdain for Communist China is somehow racist, too. You racebaiting Al Sharptonite.

Proverbs 4:7 “ Wisdom is the principle thing, therefore get wisdom and with they getting, get understanding.”

Isa. 11:3 “ And the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon Him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and the reverential and obedient fear of the Lord.

1 Corinthians 1;30 “ Jesus is made wisdom to us…”

Proverbs 24:3 “Through wisdom a house is built.”
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Highly Intelligent Men make themselves stupid, by not seeking truth. Technology is a tool, to create a bee hive in turn, destroying our Earth. Are you a Bee or a man seeking your soul? That is the question.
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A MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR INDUSTRY RESONSABLE FOR ALL WAR OVER THE LAST 100 years :-(

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