Areyouforreal, I'll have to give this one some thought and get back to you tomorrow. Right now I need to get some rest.

I read none of those Christian Scholars,its my own views

Areyouforreal - Sorry, I got stuck doing about a 9 hour investigation today so I didn't have time to actually research what you have here. It does look interesting though and I plan to look into it more, as soon as God provides the time.

One thing I will mention though that crossed my mind last night is that I have always been of the belief that "the Church" will be gone before the majority of this takes place. Note: There is no mention of "the Church" after Rev. 3 until you get to Rev. 22, the end.

But.. as I said, I'll do some research on what you've got here as soon as I can.

I have to say that every generation since Christ died has believed that it was in the end times.

Speculation is pointless because we are told that no one can know. Live your life like you aren't even promised the next minute and stop sweating.

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It is said that no one will know that hour or day but you can now the season. Christ said he will come like a thief in the night. He also stated that w3e are not children of the dark but of the light and we won't be caught by suprise.

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Revelation is not the only book that talh about the second coming.
I believe in post trib.
Here's why
You agree that the last trumpet is armegeddon tight?
If you do then:
1 Corinthians 15:50-53
50I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 51Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— 52in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality.
1 Thessalonians 4:16-18
16For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18Therefore encourage each other with these words.

Whether you are pre, mid, or post doesn't matter so long as you know God and have accepted Jesus as your Savior.

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Hay! would you like to realy look into things? Look up Ipwer Papyrus, also try immanual velokivsky's books.

You really want to have some interesting works to discuss or debate? But if you do, you must follow up; It will answer some questions about what was going on in bible times and before.

Ages in Cahaos, Worlds In Collision, Peoples of THe Sea, Earth in Upheval. These are not science fiction, They are classed as non fiction, and for good reason.

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Because they can't wait use Rescue 8
self closing flotation rescue device.

Has to be an Israel controled by the Jews,that made all end time prophecys closed till May of 1948

I agree that the most important thing is to accept Jesus, and I have to admit that I’ve not spent much time on studying end times, but it does make for interesting conversation. I do not believe that the Lord will wait until Armageddon to come for us. It may be that we will be taken up that last day just before that horrendous war breaks out, but I do believe we will be spared because of the following:

Matt. 24:22. And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

31. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Rev. 3: 10 says: “Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.”

God has promised that we will not be left here to suffer the “great tribulation”, Of course I also believe that there will be multitudes who give themselves over to God, accept the salvation of Jesus Christ, and repent during the great tribulation as well, so…

I guess my goal for now is to reach as many as I can before that time comes, as I would not wish those days on anyone I have ever known.

Matthew 24:
6. And ye shall hear of wars and rumors of wars; see that ye be not troubled: for these things must needs come to pass; but the end is not yet.
7. For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom; and there shall be famines and earthquakes in divers places.
8. But all these things are the beginning of travail. (as in childbirth)


Now we hear Al-Qaida deputy Ayman al-Zawahri, speaking in a video shown on al Jazeera today, the 5th anniversary of the attack on the U.S. and their plans to expand their jihad to the Gulf States and Israel said the following:

"And the days are pregnant and giving birth to new events…”

For those who believe that there has been some great conspiracy going on for thousands of years to make sure these prophecies are fulfilled, I seriously doubt that this guy and his fellow lunatics are the kind to conspire with Jews or Christians to fulfill even one Old or New Testament prophecy.